View Poll Results: Obama says targeting citizens for wiretapping and assassination is ok. Do you agree?

Voters
41. You may not vote on this poll
  • I support wiretapping, but not killing US citizens outside of due process

    1 2.44%
  • I opposed wiretapping when Bush did it and when Obama does it. Assassinations are even worse!

    12 29.27%
  • If you are an enemy of the US, citizenship doesn't matter. Kill em all

    23 56.10%
  • I opposed wiretapping when Bush did it, but it is ok now. So are assassinations.

    0 0%
  • Other, explain

    5 12.20%
Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 54

Thread: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

  1. #11
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    The greatest city on Earth
    Last Seen
    08-04-12 @ 04:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    31,089

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    we should do our utmost best to avoid killing citizens in the USA who are terrorists.

    however, sometimes there is no alternative.

  2. #12
    Educator
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    11-10-12 @ 04:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    801

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we should do our utmost best to avoid killing citizens in the USA who are terrorists.

    however, sometimes there is no alternative.
    I agree, but that is a far cry from what Obama's lawyers have cooked up. Maybe a little Presidential clarification is in order.
    Get informed: UNICEF foreign adoption policy is killing orphans and the US gives $132 million to UNICEF every year. Stop the madness.
    For the best news and commentary on the 2012 election from the GOP perspective, visit www.whitehouse12.com.

  3. #13
    Bring us a shrubbery!
    tessaesque's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Plano, Texas
    Last Seen
    11-09-17 @ 06:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    15,910

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    If you physically catch a U.S. citizen in process of committing an act of treason or terrorism against us then I understand shooting to kill, assuming that your life is at risk or the lives of others are at risk in that moment. I completely disagree with the assassination of the U.S. citizen cleric which took place a month or so ago. The man should have been captured/extradited with Yemen's help and made to stand trial for his crimes.

    I especially dislike the idea that the executive branch is to make the determination to kill without the involvement of anybody else. To whom do they answer if there are questions regarding the culpability of the most recent target?
    "Hmmm...Can't decide if I want to watch "Four Houses" or give myself an Icy Hot pee hole enema..." - Blake Shelton


  4. #14
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    The government is to be extremely limited in its powers and the force that it may apply to our free exercise of rights. If they want to search or wiretap, they need to get a warrant. Warrantless searches are BS, and it doesn't matter which administration it comes under. Assassination is down right appalling and should be considered an act of treason against the People.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  5. #15
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    The greatest city on Earth
    Last Seen
    08-04-12 @ 04:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    31,089

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    I agree, but that is a far cry from what Obama's lawyers have cooked up. Maybe a little Presidential clarification is in order.
    the new law that was passed today does NOT allow American citizens or legal aliens caught in the USA as enemy combatants, to be detained indefinitely without charge or trial.

  6. #16
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    The greatest city on Earth
    Last Seen
    08-04-12 @ 04:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    31,089

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ...Assassination is down right appalling and should be considered an act of treason against the People.
    The Constitution clearly states what is and is NOT....treason.

  7. #17
    Sage
    Bodhisattva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:07 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    64,063

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    Yes and no. A US Citizen actively involved in treason or in killing other US Citizens should be caught and tried as much as possible... but one that is working with the enemy at the enemies base or in the field shooting at US Soldiers should just be killed as any other "bad guy".

    With regards to wiretapping, as long as it is done legally as was done with the mafia? Fine with me. They should have probable cause and all that though... if I found out I was being tapped i would have a massive problem though, as I would with any other "normal" citizen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

  8. #18
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Constitution clearly states what is and is NOT....treason.
    Breaking the Constitution is treason. They take an oath to uphold it which comes with certain guarantees for citizens with arrests, trials by jury, etc. Less a writ of reprisal is issued or habeas corpus is suspended, they cannot arbitrarily assassinate our own citizens they suspect of committing crimes. If the government wants to kill them, they must prove their guilt in a court of law and seek the death penalty.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  9. #19
    Educator
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    11-10-12 @ 04:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    801

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Breaking the Constitution is treason. They take an oath to uphold it which comes with certain guarantees for citizens with arrests, trials by jury, etc. Less a writ of reprisal is issued or habeas corpus is suspended, they cannot arbitrarily assassinate our own citizens they suspect of committing crimes. If the government wants to kill them, they must prove their guilt in a court of law and seek the death penalty.
    Agree with the exception of someone in the processes of committing a crime who cannot safely be compelled to surrender (i.e. badguy aiming a gun at a cop or other civilian can be taken down by the authorities on site without a court order).
    Get informed: UNICEF foreign adoption policy is killing orphans and the US gives $132 million to UNICEF every year. Stop the madness.
    For the best news and commentary on the 2012 election from the GOP perspective, visit www.whitehouse12.com.

  10. #20
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    The greatest city on Earth
    Last Seen
    08-04-12 @ 04:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    31,089

    Re: Is Targeting Citizens Ok With You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Breaking the Constitution is treason.....
    says who??????

    Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort

    citizens who wage war against the United States have committed treason, according to OUR Constitution.
    Last edited by Thunder; 12-01-11 at 04:58 PM.

Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •