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    Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?



    I say yes.All waste must be cut especially pork spending.




    Toomey, McCaskill to call for permanent earmark ban - 2chambers - The Washington Post

    A bipartisan duo in the Senate is planning to introduce legislation that would permanently ban earmarks, the legislative practice of securing funding for lawmakers’ pet projects.
    Sens. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) and Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) will announce their proposal Wednesday morning at a Capitol news conference. The move comes one year after McCaskill and then-Sen.-elect Toomey penned a joint USA Today op-ed supporting a temporary moratorium on earmarks. Toomey is a freshman senator and a former president of the conservative Club for Growth; McCaskill is facing a competitive re-election bid next year.
    Until last year’s lame duck session, earmarks had long been a hallmark of the way Congress has done business. But following a midterm election marked by voter anger at federal spending and the country’s record debt, a renewed emphasis on fiscal restraint in Washington meant that lawmakers could no longer steer money toward their pet projects.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    No - regardless of the 'big bad meany money robbing rap' that it's all received: they can be abused and over-used . . . but are not inherently an evil.

    The purpose of our Congressmen being our Representatives in Congress is to go there - with our requests and needs - and ask for a bit of support for things that we'd like to do. Not 100% support: but some. That is THE purpose and OUR right.

    Why is it so wrong for us to do this?

    Now - of course, again, yes it can be abused. So excessive use should be reigned in and they *should not* be kept private or quiet. That is where the problems are.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    I SAY YES without an iota of hesitation. If a member of the congress and senate wants a special appropriation for his district..make it PUBLIC lets hear it and let the group decide...no more of this crap sticking billions in earmarks into a food for kids and abortion bills and tieing special earmarks as a criteria to pass a military spending bill to give the troops what we need....this is the kind of thing we have to STOP first before we hurt people....after you take all this crap and its demonstrated its not enough...then go to the next level....we need common sense and compromise

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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Yes,ban all earmarks.

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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?



    I say yes.All waste must be cut especially pork spending.
    In general, eliminating earmarks doesn't cut any spending though.

    Earmarks are usually just a way for a congressman to send money that's already going to be spent anyway to a specific project, usually in his district or state. Getting rid of earmarks might make it easier to cut spending, but it doesn't actually cut it.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dog View Post
    Yes,ban all earmarks.

    Politicians have to find an alternate way to "buy" votes.

    Voters could just stop selling.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I SAY YES without an iota of hesitation. If a member of the congress and senate wants a special appropriation for his district..make it PUBLIC lets hear it and let the group decide.
    Not sure what you mean. All measures are voted on and all votes are public.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    No - regardless of the 'big bad meany money robbing rap' that it's all received: they can be abused and over-used . . . but are not inherently an evil.

    The purpose of our Congressmen being our Representatives in Congress is to go there - with our requests and needs - and ask for a bit of support for things that we'd like to do. Not 100% support: but some. That is THE purpose and OUR right.

    Why is it so wrong for us to do this?

    Now - of course, again, yes it can be abused. So excessive use should be reigned in and they *should not* be kept private or quiet. That is where the problems are.
    Good point.

    Earmarks simply put some of the spending decisions in Congress instead of being made by a bureaucrat or with some formula. Nothing really wrong with that. It leads to some silly spending, yes, but that should be judged on its merits, because lots of silly spending happens without earmarks, while some really good spending happens with earmarks too.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dog View Post
    Yes,ban all earmarks.

    Politicians have to find an alternate way to "buy" votes.

    So - if you don't want your representatives representing you and trying to help improve your district and state . . . then what do you want them to do?
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    No - regardless of the 'big bad meany money robbing rap' that it's all received: they can be abused and over-used . . . but are not inherently an evil.

    The purpose of our Congressmen being our Representatives in Congress is to go there - with our requests and needs - and ask for a bit of support for things that we'd like to do. Not 100% support: but some. That is THE purpose and OUR right.

    Why is it so wrong for us to do this?

    Now - of course, again, yes it can be abused. So excessive use should be reigned in and they *should not* be kept private or quiet. That is where the problems are.
    Yeah, this. Earmarks in and of themselves are not bad things. The problem is abuse of the system. I would like to see much more oversight on earmarks and better reporting on who gets what, and let voters decide.
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