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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I can't imagine any way to prevent selfish earmarks that wouldn't also stop legitimate expenditures. For example, money spent rebuilding a city after a natural disaster. How would the ban distinguish between that and a porkbarrel project?

    Edit: Should have read the second page. >_< I like most of Hazlnut's list. But again, something that serves a local or special interest can still be in the common interest. Sometimes a specific problem requires national focus.
    Well - I wouldn't mind a bit more oversight, control and approval. If they're requesting funds for a project because "we want it" - we better actually want it. So polling for opinion or support - etc - should be the beginning of every project.

    Something ot that extent - though the exact way to engage or value that is up for a good debate.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You realize that pretty much everyone who isn't in your district thinks that's a stupid, wasteful earmark, right? Why should the federal government be subsidizing a city soccer league?
    And yeah I do realize that people will see it as wasteful, and there is good reason to see that. But I mean compared to a statue was that put up in Columbia through earmarks, at least the soccer fields promote physicall activity and gives high schoolers a part time job in ref'ing games. But that is what I mean when we should have more rules regarding what earmarks go to. I realize that my example wasn't the best, but I am taking the LSAT Saturday, so my brain isn't in the best place.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    And yeah I do realize that people will see it as wasteful, and there is good reason to see that. But I mean compared to a statue was that put up in Columbia through earmarks, at least the soccer fields promote physicall activity and gives high schoolers a part time job in ref'ing games. But that is what I mean when we should have more rules regarding what earmarks go to. I realize that my example wasn't the best,
    No, it wasn't. And there aren't many good examples you'll ever find. Everyone thinks their earmarks are good and others are bad. They people who wanted that statue in Columbia think it is awesome too.

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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - I wouldn't mind a bit more oversight, control and approval. If they're requesting funds for a project because "we want it" - we better actually want it. So polling for opinion or support - etc - should be the beginning of every project.
    Members of Congress do alot to gage what the people want on lots of issues already.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    I don't think earmarks should be banned, but there should be more safeguards in place to review such earmarks. I really hate it when they're attached to an important bill yet have nothing to do with the bill. Such maneuvers should be outlawed.

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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Banning earmarks/pork would do NOTHING to thwart unnecessary spending... unless the earmark/pork is questionable to begin with... which is the entire point of banning them. If an earmark is a valid one, it would be no less valid as a stand-alone bill.

    Does a fire station in Montana really need to piggy-back on a hurricane disaster relief bill for Florida? No, it doesn't. Submit the Montana fire station as a separate bill and vote accordingly on its own merits.

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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Not sure what you mean. All measures are voted on and all votes are public.
    No sir that is incorrect...earmarks are snuck and tucked into various bills and they are never discussed on the senate floor or the house...the entire bill is voted on...not what they sneak inside it

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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    No sir that is incorrect...earmarks are snuck and tucked into various bills and they are never discussed on the senate floor or the house...the entire bill is voted on...not what they sneak inside it
    They may be - though this is not always true - but all bills that they may be "tucked into" are public record, as are the votes on them. That's true for any legislation though, not just earmarks. That was my point.

    Earmarks most definitely can be discussed on the floor. Go ask Sen. Coburn, for instance - he routinely brings them up and blasts them.
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    Re: Should earmarks/pork be permanently banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Banning earmarks/pork would do NOTHING to thwart unnecessary spending... unless the earmark/pork is questionable to begin with... which is the entire point of banning them. If an earmark is a valid one, it would be no less valid as a stand-alone bill.

    Does a fire station in Montana really need to piggy-back on a hurricane disaster relief bill for Florida? No, it doesn't. Submit the Montana fire station as a separate bill and vote accordingly on its own merits.
    You're not talking about earmarks at all. You're just talking about non-germane legislation.
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