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not possibleYou could just end it instead.
at the age of emancipation they got to make their own decisions about such things
not possibleYou could just end it instead.
Okay, I see that. But that's inconsistent with his views (as I recall them, I may be wrong) about athletics. Perhaps he should be calling for having two armies, one for men and one for women. Or perhaps military standards are irrelevant to this discussion.
Agree. In the military, the standards should be equal. Or perhaps they should be set according to the specific job.
Its all about money, and civil rights legislation.
Schools make the determination if they can afford to offer two teams for one sport. That's your case-by-case basis. Since they recieve federal funds, they have to abide by federal rules governing that money. Obviously, if you want your state/school to be unique, give the finger to federal money. But good luck finding someone not addicted to the teet.
Civil Rights legislation doesn't have the ability to inject common sense, because the point of the legislation was to remove the individual's opinion on specific matters for the sake of certain identifying qualities.
this is one of the things that has always ticked me off about the military physical fitness test. I am nearly 50 years old, to get the same score as a female my own age, I must do 2.5 times as many push ups and complete the aerobic event much faster. so, even though I am much stronger and much faster, when evaluation time comes around and they look at our PT scores....we are considered "equal".
my daughter, who is 25, is in our unit. we have been doing PT together since she was in HS. on our last PT test we did the same number of pushups and situps and we finished the aerobic event together.
my score = 201/300
her score = 273/300
nothing inconsistent at all. I have said that men are generally strong and faster than women. my view of the military standards is consistent with this. I really have no problem with the military setting lower standards for females to compensate for the fact that men are generally stronger and faster. just don't try to tell me we are "equal"
analogy:
you take a course in differential equations and make a "B" in the class
I take a course in college algebra and make a "B" in the class
It would be foolish of me to claim that we are equal because we both made a "B" in "math"
that's what I don't get, they already have a girls team. which means they are already footing the bill for facilities and coaching. how much more could it possibly cost the school to add a boys team? speedos are not that expensive :shrug:
Well I aced all my mathematical studies
But per strength: I don't think it's acceptable to have different standards - I think - in regard to military standards - they should be EQUAL in their strength and abilities. Not hair styles and every little detail - but where it matters most, yes.
In general: when it comes to physical labor and the aspects related to it - if a woman wants to do the same job that is dominated by mostly men she should be able to DO the job without preferential treatment (etc). If she needs a back-up and an alternative plan for every job assignment then she needs to find a new job that's more suitable to her.
Just like men: many men can't cut the military standard, either - and they just don't graduate basic or boot.
As I said before, the military PT test are not a measure for how a person can do a particular job or for determining whether they can do certain job assignments. The PT test is a measure of overall fitness for each individual participant. Since men and women are physically different, then the amount of exercises or the amount of time they do an exercise in will be different for both different sexes and different age groups to show how healthy each individual is.
It reminds me of the South Park where Cartman joins the Special Olympics thinking he will smash all of the handicapped children - but of course they are on steroids and he is fat so he loses. But, uh, yeah, men and women are built differently, so any physical sport should clearly be divided by gender.
Yeah - I'm siding with her. . . when you're in a sport that measures your personal abilities against other people's abilities - this just gives the boys a cutting edge that girls will never be able to beat purely based on their natural physical strength.
It's not like football, wrestling or soccer where the nature of gender is less of a factor.
which is true. the issue and my complaint comes when they use these scores to compare/evaluate one soldier against another without taking into account the differences in the standards.
for many years, PT scores were used to help determine promotion points. the higher the score the more points you got added to your total. when the difference between getting promoted or not is a matter of 10-15 points, the lower standards for females gave them a decided advantage.
I think all teenage boys should be allowed to compete against the women in the lingerie football league :thumbs:
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Football?????????????????? Girl, I don't know about you. :mrgreen:Yeah - I'm siding with her. . . when you're in a sport that measures your personal abilities against other people's abilities - this just gives the boys a cutting edge that girls will never be able to beat purely based on their natural physical strength.
It's not like football, wrestling or soccer where the nature of gender is less of a factor.
I hereby officially call for your thread banning. :mrgreen:I think all teenage boys should be allowed to compete against the women in the lingerie football league :thumbs:
integrating the powder puff team; that's just going too farI hereby officially call for your thread banning. :mrgreen:
Girls need protection too - I mean, it might seem freaking stupid. But they don't make female genetalia protection - if a cup is what you have than use a cup. It doesn't feel good getting clocked their for us, either.
Anyway