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Thread: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Which brings the question; Does this apply to school sports?
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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    This is one time when adhering to the letter of the law is just stupid. Girls shouldn't have to compete with boys in this case. As someone else said, have boys from a couple of schools combine to make up a team so they can least participate. We shouldn't be denying girls the chance to compete who would otherwise have been on the girls team.
    It's a tough question. Tracking girls into different competition is basically admitting they can't compete (much) with boys. But since we routinely create other groups with similar abilities to allow them to compete on the same level, I don't have a problem with it. Then again, can you imagine having different leagues or teams based on race? That wouldn't go over well.
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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    "But...but...but...this is different!", that's why we can't allow this to happen. It's all about political correctness and there's no way that males can been perceived to be dominate over females. Now, if they were smart, they woud have recruited some black boys and that would shut everyone's pie hole, is a New York second--pin intended.
    I've never heard anyone argue that a girl should be allowed or able to hold recognition or record in any of those categories- that's why girls have a category for them and boys have a category for them. In the beginning all sports were boys-only. Girls wanted to participate so they gave us girls-teams and categories. It didn't interfere with the guys - it didn't interfere with the girls.

    The training together isn't the issue - it's the competition . . .there IS a boy's category: why aren't they allowed to just train with the girls (thus saving the school money) and then compete with the boys?

    Or: go to another school's team if this is out of the question as was suggested by one of the girls on the team.
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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    and the male athlete sings after the swim meet: "Billy Jean King got my balls, for I lost., she still the one."

    I voted for keeping the sexes seperate at least through the high school and college level.

    As far as in pro sports, if you open it up on one side to both sexes, then you should do the same for the other (NBA/WNBA , LPGA/PGA). Realisticly, I would keep the sexes seperate.
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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Define being, "beaten by a girl".

    Seriously, though, it appears that the girls are getting their butts kicked by the boys and suddenly the hand wringers don't dig that. Must be someone that's afraid of being beaten by a man.
    Yeah, the father of the girl literally chided the boys for beating (only) girls. I'm not sure what to make of it all. He might feel differently if his girl was winning against boys.
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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    I think it should be a case by case basis, but that would be too hard b/c people would have diferent opinions.

    Let's take wrestling as an example;

    If there is a female on the team and nobody has a problem with it, fine. If a boy doesn't want to wrestle a girl, should he be forced to wrestle her or ridiculed b/c he doesn't want to? What if there were an all girls wrestling team, and a boy decides to join. A boy that is better, bigger, and stronger. Is it fair to the opposing all girl team to have to wrestle a boy they know they can't beat?

    See, I believe that's why we as a nation started out with boy/girl only teams-to avoid all this confusion and controversy.

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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I've never heard anyone argue that a girl should be allowed or able to hold recognition or record in any of those categories- that's why girls have a category for them and boys have a category for them. In the beginning all sports were boys-only. Girls wanted to participate so they gave us girls-teams and categories. It didn't interfere with the guys - it didn't interfere with the girls.

    The training together isn't the issue - it's the competition . . .there IS a boy's category: why aren't they allowed to just train with the girls (thus saving the school money) and then compete with the boys?

    Or: go to another school's team if this is out of the question as was suggested by one of the girls on the team.
    The article clearly points out that there is no category for the boys.

    You can bet your boots that if the tables were turned, it would suddenly be taboo to complain about the girls being on the boys team.
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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's a tough question. Tracking girls into different competition is basically admitting they can't compete (much) with boys. But since we routinely create other groups with similar abilities to allow them to compete on the same level, I don't have a problem with it. Then again, can you imagine having different leagues or teams based on race? That wouldn't go over well.
    there's no shame in a woman not being able to compete physically with a man. i'd rather have the brains than the brawn anyway!

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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yeah, the father of the girl literally chided the boys for beating (only) girls. I'm not sure what to make of it all. He might feel differently if his girl was winning against boys.
    Damn right he would!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    there's no shame in a woman not being able to compete physically with a man. i'd rather have the brains than the brawn anyway!
    I'm not even going to touch that one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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