View Poll Results: Should sports be segregated by gender?

Voters
65. You may not vote on this poll
  • I feel there's no need to seperate genders, let them play co-ed

    8 12.31%
  • Boys should play with boys, and girls with girls

    22 33.85%
  • It depends on the sport

    23 35.38%
  • other

    12 18.46%
Page 13 of 17 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 130 of 170

Thread: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

  1. #121
    Sage
    Sherman123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Northeast US
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 11:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,774

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The strongest woman may be stronger than the weakest man though. So let the compete and see. You're not afraid being beaten by a girl, are you?
    That's true, but generally in sports you are talking about the mean of a very high quality. The mean of the competitive class of male weightlifters, runners, or swimmers will be far superior to the mean of the mean of women in the same category. Allowing competition the argument goes, and appears evidenced in this article, dilutes the pool of women who could possibly compete and entrenches males in the sport.

  2. #122
    Sage
    Sherman123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Northeast US
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 11:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,774

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    To me it's not, but if the best woman can play better and harder than the "average man," why not let her play with the big boys? A player like Candace Parker can probably hold her own against many NBA bench-warmers.

    I don't know why a guy would want to swim on a girls' team though.
    On the same token why wouldn't you let less able males from the NBA play in the WNBA?

  3. #123
    King Of The Dog Pound
    Black Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    South Florida
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    34,492

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    I don't know, but I think this is silly. Men are better at some sports women at others. Males and females are built differently, so it would depend on the sport for the most part. The problem is in most female sports men would still dominate. So why should women have to compete at a level they can't ever win? I mean race car driving one thing, swimming is totally different and males would dominate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

  4. #124
    Guru
    JohnWOlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Kentucky
    Last Seen
    01-17-17 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    3,594

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    In general and biologically even women and men are far better at certain things than the other. Taking care of children for example comes naturally to most women and men can do it, it just usually takes more work.
    "Weíre going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and thatís crazy." -Reagan

  5. #125
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    I think there's room for both coed and gender specific. Just about every team and individual sport. What's insane is that we spend so much on gender specific male sports.

  6. #126
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    SE Asia
    Last Seen
    07-12-14 @ 10:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    2,333

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    It is tough to answer. It isn’t like there is a boy’s team and a girl’s team and the boy is joining the girl’s team so as to have an advantage. He wants to swim competitively and the girl’s team is all there is. Is it right to tell the boy he isn’t allowed to compete but the girls can?

    Swimming isn’t a head-to-head sport like football or wrestling. I would think in sports that are against the clock the points could be weighted for gender.

    In the Army we have to take the Army Physical Fitness Test. In order for me to be in good standing I have to score at least a 60% in the 2-mile-run, sit-ups, and push-ups. To get 60% an 18-year-old male must run his two miles in 15:54. For a female she must run it in 18:54. The requirement for sit-ups, however, is the same as they have decided there is no significant difference between the genders in that task

    So I would think sports like swimming could be made co-ed by simply handicapping the boys. Add a few extra seconds to their clock or have two separate starting buzzers, the first for the girls and the second for the males. I have NO idea how many seconds, but it shouldn’t be too hard to come up with a figure by comparing large sample sets of race results.

  7. #127
    King Of The Dog Pound
    Black Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    South Florida
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    34,492

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I think there's room for both coed and gender specific. Just about every team and individual sport. What's insane is that we spend so much on gender specific male sports.
    Women's basketball is a good example of why this happens. It's not that it is bad or anything, just no where near as exciting to watch. Some sports like swimming it would not really mater. A women's baseball league mite rock. It worked during WWII, so I assume it was good.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 11-15-12 at 04:12 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

  8. #128
    King Of The Dog Pound
    Black Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    South Florida
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    34,492

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    It is tough to answer. It isnít like there is a boyís team and a girlís team and the boy is joining the girlís team so as to have an advantage. He wants to swim competitively and the girlís team is all there is. Is it right to tell the boy he isnít allowed to compete but the girls can?

    Swimming isnít a head-to-head sport like football or wrestling. I would think in sports that are against the clock the points could be weighted for gender.

    In the Army we have to take the Army Physical Fitness Test. In order for me to be in good standing I have to score at least a 60% in the 2-mile-run, sit-ups, and push-ups. To get 60% an 18-year-old male must run his two miles in 15:54. For a female she must run it in 18:54. The requirement for sit-ups, however, is the same as they have decided there is no significant difference between the genders in that task

    So I would think sports like swimming could be made co-ed by simply handicapping the boys. Add a few extra seconds to their clock or have two separate starting buzzers, the first for the girls and the second for the males. I have NO idea how many seconds, but it shouldnít be too hard to come up with a figure by comparing large sample sets of race results.
    Handicapping in a collegiate or professional sport would suck for the person being handicapped. Anytime they lose, or it's close, well you get the picture.

    At a High school or lower level? I don't know. I mean if he wants to participate, I am sure he could live with it. Not like he is being paid, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

  9. #129
    Dungeon Master
    Hooter Babe

    DiAnna's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Northern California
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,586
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Now why did someone necro this thing...
    + one.

  10. #130
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    05-01-14 @ 03:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    12,879

    Re: Boys Swimming on Girls Teams Find Success, Then Draw Jeers

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Hmmm, as a boy you would be disgusted around girls in swimsuits? I hadn't figured you leaned that way.
    That's not what I was disgusted about, though having seen some of the female swimmers in my day, they were nothing to write home about. What I was commenting on being disgusted about was the idea of competing against inferior competition becuase you're not willing to seek out appropriate opponents.

Page 13 of 17 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •