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Politically Correct?

Am I being politically correct in the example given?


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Mentally disabled v. retarded. Hearing impaired vs. deaf. African American instead of just black. Obese instead of fat. Asian instead of oriental.. blah! :roll: It's all just silly nonsense.
 
Mentally disabled v. retarded. Hearing impaired vs. deaf. African American instead of just black. Obese instead of fat. Asian instead of oriental.. blah! :roll: It's all just silly nonsense.

Really bitch?

Oops.....

Note for those who do not understand: the use of the word bitch in this case was representative to make a point, I was not calling nor do I think Evanescence is a bitch. I would have used a different word that would have been more effective except the word filter would have killed the effect.
 
Mentally disabled v. retarded. Hearing impaired vs. deaf. African American instead of just black. Obese instead of fat. Asian instead of oriental.. blah! :roll: It's all just silly nonsense.

Yeah, so at my job I'll go to up to all the kids with Autism and say "you're all retards" and see what kind of reaction I get. Obviously it's their fault if they're offended and I lose my job, because they're stupid retards.
 
If a person goes out of their way to use a term then it is PC, if not, then no big deal. Calling something correctly is not being PC.
Wanting something to be called incorrectly is PC. Even wanting something that is sometimes called correctly, and other times called incorrectly, is also PC.
 
Wanting something to be called incorrectly is PC. Even wanting something that is sometimes called correctly, and other times called incorrectly, is also PC.

example????
 
Yeah, so at my job I'll go to up to all the kids with Autism and say "you're all retards" and see what kind of reaction I get. Obviously it's their fault if they're offended and I lose my job, because they're stupid retards.

Your all retards would be rude. Flat out. If you said that those kids are retarded though, then that would not be rude as long as you meant it to be slow. It goes to intent.

What is PC is calling a deaf person deaf and having them get mad about it. THAT is the BS that Political Correctness spawns.

I was walking with my brother and said something about those deaf kids using sign language so fast and he got mad at me for not being PC. I said that I just mean that they can't hear... they are deaf. Hellen Keller was deaf. Just a fact. He said that I might offend them if they knew and I said that it is not my job to go around worrying about if something I say might offend a person or not.

I know a black guy that wants to be called African American and another that if you call him African American gets angry and says he was born in Arkansas.
 
I have posted examples previously in this thread. Feel free to seek them out.

actually i don't see any examples. what example do you have wanting something to be called incorrectly being for pc purposes?
 
From your example Redress, it seems to me you were speaking as someone informed, and because of that, what you said, also happened to be politically correct.
 
Exactly. I met some people and the I was interested in where they were from since they were dressed really nicely in ethnic clothes. They said they were Persian. I clarified and asked if they were Iranian and they insisted that they were Persian. I said fine, but I was thinking that the Persians ended as an entity a loooong time ago.

Who cares?

During the Iranian hostage crisis in which dozens of our diplomats were being held, I was Finance Director for a SoCal water district. I was hiring a new accounts receivable clerk, and a Middle-Eastern young man applied. I liked his credentials and the way he handled himself in the interview. He had a very distinct accent, and I could see from his resume dates that he'd only been in the US a few years, so I asked how he liked it here and where he was from. He said he liked it very much, and he was from Persia... but I could see the instant flash of fear in his eyes. I just said, "Welcome to America, you've got the job." I thought he'd faint, lol.

After he'd worked for me for many months and was comfortable, he said in the break room... in a whisper... "I'm really from Iran, which used to be Persia." I just smiled and said, "I know."

Sometimes it's frightening to come to a new country that has tense relations with the country from which one just escaped.
 
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Really bitch?

Oops.....

Note for those who do not understand: the use of the word bitch in this case was representative to make a point, I was not calling nor do I think Evanescence is a bitch. I would have used a different word that would have been more effective except the word filter would have killed the effect.

uh huh. Calling someone a bitch isn't really politically incorrect. Neither is the other curse word you wanted to use.

Yeah, so at my job I'll go to up to all the kids with Autism and say "you're all retards" and see what kind of reaction I get. Obviously it's their fault if they're offended and I lose my job, because they're stupid retards.

I already stated that I would not call a child retarded. But nice hyperbole.
 
Then your entire argument about being politically correct or polite is meaningless.
I don't know how you came to that conclusion, but I bet it has something to do with retardation.

Then you agree that your original premise on political correctness in this thread, and in every other thread has been wrong.
Uh, no, but what do you think my premise is if you came to this nonsensical conclusion?
 
I already stated that I would not call a child retarded. But nice hyperbole.
Yeah, but in your post, you place "mentally disabled" in the "silly nonsense" category of PC words indicating that "retarded" is the word that you prefer and apparently think is perfectly fine regardless of whether or not you use it. Spud's point seems to be that it's not all "silly nonsense" because if using "mentally disabled" instead "retard" was just "silly nonsense" then it would make perfect sense to walk up to a bunch of Autistic kids and call them retards.
 
Using insults only demonstrate how pathetically wrong you are.
Wrong about what? You said my arguments have been inconsistent. Are you going to explain why or just distort my arguments (which is an insult in itself)?

Oh and please don't educate me on insults. You're known around here as the queen of insults and rude behavior. Besides, the retardation comment was meant to be ironic given the subject, but you can continue to distort my arguments as much as you want without explanation if you would like.
 
I said you were wrong. And I've already explained why. Feel free to actually read the thread.
You actually didn't. You said, "Then your entire argument about being politically correct or polite is meaningless" and "Then you agree that your original premise on political correctness in this thread, and in every other thread has been wrong" without any explanation.

Feel free to actually explain your positions, particularly when they appear to be based on distortions of other people's arguments.
 
We have had a few discussions on the topic of politically correct topics lately, and it reminded me of a conversation on these boards from quite some time ago. I cannot remember what the discussion was about so the other person will remain nameless and hopefully unidentifiable. Who it is is not important. What I am going to ask is if I was being politically correct in this discussion.

Conversation: something about Asians, some one calls Asians "oriental", another person points out that properly, the correct term is Asian.

Me: I learned some time ago that Asian refers to people, Oriental to objects, so I always use Asian

Other person: You are just being Politically Correct.

Me: I don't think I am, it is effortless on my part to say Asian and I then don't have to worry about offending any one accidentally.

Other Person: Exactly, you are trying not to offend, so you are being PC.

Now, obviously this is somewhat paraphrased and condensed from a longer conversation. What I want to know though, is in the example I gave as I gave it, am I being Politically Correct to use the term Asian instead of Oriental?

Yes it is being PC for the simple fact that you are saying it so that you don't offend other people. Hence why you added the words that are in bold. It may be effortless for you to say it but the fact that you said what you did, even if you say it in an incidental way shows that it is at the very least in the back of your mind.

BTW, I've heard several guys say that an oriental woman is very exotic. So no, the word "oriental" is not strictly about items. "Oriental" has more to do with a culture and as such can apply to either people or items.
 
How have I distorted your argument?
I don't know. You haven't explained it yet. But a distortion has a clearly occurred if you think that my "original premise on political correctness in this thread, and in every other thread has been wrong" because I said, "We don't need to do anything." So what is the distortion? Why is my argument "meaningless" because I don't think we need to do anything?
 
I guess the "retard" thing for me is the biggest example of the line for being PC to avoid being rude/hurtful and being PC just because you want the person to think like you do about certain words.

I would never use the word "retard" to describe or even around a mentally handicapped person because it is rude and hurtful to them. And I know that I would be upset if I hear others describing people with that word who are mentally handicapped and it is either known to the person or me or it is obvious that the person is not mentally stable/whole.

I often use the word "retard" to describe dumbasses who do/say something stupid, who should have known better. Yes, it is an insult based on calling someone who is not mentally handicapped basically "mentally handicapped". But, to me, it isn't because I think that non-mentally handicapped people are better than mentally handicapped people. I am generally looking for an insult that fits with the person being a dumbass at the time, and "retard" or "he/she's being retarded" fits. I don't care if it is rude and hurtful to the person I am calling a retard because they would have gotten an insult from me one way or another anyway because of their actions.

Of course, I have been in a mock-insult match with a friend before in which we were "insulting" one another by calling each other "house wife" and "stay at home mom" because, at the time, neither of us had any desire to be those things because liked what we were doing and the independence we had. I am currently a stay at home mom but still wouldn't be insulted if I heard someone else in a similar position that I was then and being involved in a similar insult match because I would understand that it is simply not something that they want to be at that time.
 
BTW, I've heard several guys say that an oriental woman is very exotic. So no, the word "oriental" is not strictly about items. "Oriental" has more to do with a culture and as such can apply to either people or items.

Yeah, if they're talking about how "oriental women" are "exotic"... they're still talking about objects.
 
Yeah, if they're talking about how "oriental women" are "exotic"... they're still talking about objects.

Depends on how you mean it. If you just mean it in a physical way (ex: damn they're so hot I want to boink em!) then I would agree with ya. But it could also include how that woman acts, her mannerisms, how she goes about her life as far as adhering to her culture etc etc.
 
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