View Poll Results: Am I being politically correct in the example given?

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Thread: Politically Correct?

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    It's not PC to use words accurately, so in this case it's not being PC to accurately take note of the fact that Oriental does not refer to people.

    Calling someone "oriental" is just grammatically incorrect.

    If this was the difference between Chinaman and Asian-American, however, it would be a PC issue because, "Dude, Chinaman's not the preferred nomenclature, Asian-American please."

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    let's try another, similar expression

    if you got 'jewed' in a negotiation with someone (in this example, let's say a moslem)
    this is a common/wide-spread expression (tho possibly antiquated)
    would you find that an acceptable term today?
    I'd probably wonder what they were talking about, since I don't even know what that would mean. I am 31 years old, and although I have seen that used here (never heard it in person), I still don't really know what it means. I have heard people use "gypped" quite often though in real life.
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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We have had a few discussions on the topic of politically correct topics lately, and it reminded me of a conversation on these boards from quite some time ago. I cannot remember what the discussion was about so the other person will remain nameless and hopefully unidentifiable. Who it is is not important. What I am going to ask is if I was being politically correct in this discussion.

    Conversation: something about Asians, some one calls Asians "oriental", another person points out that properly, the correct term is Asian.

    Me: I learned some time ago that Asian refers to people, Oriental to objects, so I always use Asian

    Other person: You are just being Politically Correct.

    Me: I don't think I am, it is effortless on my part to say Asian and I then don't have to worry about offending any one accidentally.

    Other Person: Exactly, you are trying not to offend, so you are being PC.

    Now, obviously this is somewhat paraphrased and condensed from a longer conversation. What I want to know though, is in the example I gave as I gave it, am I being Politically Correct to use the term Asian instead of Oriental?
    I detest political correctness, but I've always used the term "Asian". It always seemed accurate without being awkward. The only time I ever use the word "oriental" is when talking about rugs or geography.

    An example of a politically correct phrase that I pretty much refuse to use is "African-American". THAT's politically correct. Not all blacks are African, and not all Africans are black. It's an inaccurate statement. Same goes for "undocumented worker". First, they're not all working, for one thing. Second, "Illegal immigrant" is accurate without being insulting. (I know that "alien" is also technically correct, but to me an "alien" is some small green being from outer space.)

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    I believe Chinaman is the preferred nomenclature, Dude. Or is it Asian American?

    (I agree that expecting correct use of the word is not PC)
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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Slapping "-American" at the end of any ethnic description is unnecessarily PC.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Slapping "-American" at the end of any ethnic description is unnecessarily PC.
    Or just...an accurate descriptor of someone who is American.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    No, it's not being politically correct because Asians aren't objects. It's just "correct".

    Another point, I find it a bit annoying and even more damaging to society than actual political correctness that people are now referring to manners as political correctness seemingly as means to excuse themselves from the common courtesy of respecting people and being polite. I consider it much more damaging to go around saying things to purposely offend people than to use language that facilitates conversation.

    It seems to me that most of the people who complain relentlessly about political correctness are just social retards who never learned the importance of language and don't want to take responsibility for the reactions they get from people.
    Of course 'retard' is also not politically correct. Actually, the term "politically correct" is no longer PC itself, the correct term is "culturally sensitive". Please conform your language accordingly.
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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Or just...an accurate descriptor of someone who is American.
    A simple 'No.' would suffice, but I have to have at least ten characters in my response.

    "Not necessarily" would probably be more accurate, which is exactly what qualifies it as being PC... the grouping together in an attempt to be fair all the while ignoring the intended purpose and being overly broad.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Of course 'retard' is also not politically correct. Actually, the term "politically correct" is no longer PC itself, the correct term is "culturally sensitive". Please conform your language accordingly.
    I know it's not politically correct and I've mentioned in other threads about political correctness that I say it without complaining about other people's reactions to it and PC in general. Social retards, as I said in my post, are the people "who relentlessly complain about political correctness". If you say a word, you should be willing to accept the consequences of it and not run around whining and bitching about how unfair it is to you that people don't like it when you say "black" instead of "African-American".

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Thank you all for your replies. I will make some specific replies here in a minute, but some general observations first:

    1) The question is not with the specific term asian vs oriental, but the concept of using language to not offend

    2) The question is not on correcting other people(that to me is clearly PC), but in doing it personally. I will be giving further depth to this in specific replies
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