View Poll Results: Am I being politically correct in the example given?

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  • Yes, that is PC

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Thread: Politically Correct?

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    We keep batting the "feel forced" which equates to social pressure to "being physically forced" or "forced consequences" by a greater force, which is not really the measure.

    Before this digresses into po-tate-toe vs po-ta-tow goony babble let's ask the question as a Poll. And you can't voice your opinion on it's meaning and all that claptrap and no influencing anyones decision with your seniority or popularity. That would be considered social pressure. And we can't refer back to this thread. Let the posters argue the question first then after a winner is decided we can chime in.

    "How many of you really hate Political Correctness but feel forced to conform or be an outcast"? This is the original question slightly modified.

    If the Yes's hit 20 first then I win and you two nudniks, tpd and TC have to lick the chili off my toilet rim and be my manslaves for two months.
    Seriously, you have to say on that thread "grip took us to school because we are a fool". And if vice versa on the No's then I'll say you won,, agreeable? If the poll never hits 20 yea's or nays then 10 was the limit. Just so a majority is reached within a 7 day time limit.

    Since you not only disagree with the question you even disagree with the context of it. I mean if you're really that confident then those terms should be acceptable? You'll probably win not because I think what've I said is that far out of bounds in accepted public speech, but because the members here have a strange habit of dissecting someones summary opinions into unconnected statements to reply and argue. I think if a whole opinion is given then it should be countered by a similar method. Not chopped up and pulled out of context.
    Why would I worry about the results of such a poll? My position has nothing to do with what other people may or may not feel. My position is all about the accuracy of those feelings. They certainly might feel forced, but that doesn't mean they are forced. My point is that, regardless of their feelings on the matter, they are not actually forced to conform in any way.

    If 20,000 people voted yes in such a poll before three people voted no, my position would still remain the same. I don't base my positions on appeal to majority fallacies anyway. Just because many people agree with something doesn't mean it is correct. Case in point: at one time in history, the vast majority of people believed the sun orbited the Earth.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    They certainly might feel forced, but that doesn't mean they are forced. My point is that, regardless of their feelings on the matter, they are not actually forced to conform in any way.
    They may not be forced to conform but they may feel that way, which is all my question ask.

    Case in point: at one time in history, the vast majority of people believed the sun orbited the Earth.
    Go far enough back and humans probably ate their poop like Fido. No doubt humans are continuing to evolve and understand the nature of their existence.

    In a sense the sun actually does orbit the earth because the whole solar system is traveling through curved space like a bolo (bola), where though the earth is in the suns orbit the sun does wobble thru an extended arc around the earth. Placing each in the others gravitational grasp with each ultimately spinning around the other. That statement is a stretch but it's what I felt like was done to mine,, lol.

    Why would I worry about the results of such a poll? My position has nothing to do with what other people may or may not feel. My position is all about the accuracy of those feelings. If 20,000 people voted yes in such a poll before three people voted no, my position would still remain the same. I don't base my positions on appeal to majority fallacies anyway. Just because many people agree with something doesn't mean it is correct.
    I felt the Poll was a win, win for me because if I won I could crow on endlessly and if I lost I could claim you needed popular approval to support your position. Kind of like a PC moment. Dammit man you disemboweled my idea.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    They may not be forced to conform but they may feel that way, which is all my question ask.
    To be fair, I answered your question from the perspective of how and why I have never felt forced to conform. My reasoning was just generalizable.



    Go far enough back and humans probably ate their poop like Fido.
    If by "far enough" you mean "to Tucker's breakfast", then yes, this is true. I skipped lunch.

    In a sense the sun actually does orbit the earth because the whole solar system is traveling through curved space like a bolo (bola), where though the earth is in the suns orbit the sun does wobble thru an extended arc around the earth. Placing each in the others gravitational grasp with each ultimately spinning around the other. That statement is a stretch but it's what I felt like was done to mine,, lol.
    While the Earth's gravity does act upon the Sun, it doesn't really orbit the Earth because the barycenter (which is one of the foci of the Earth's elliptical orbit) is extremely close to the Sun's center mass. This makes the wobble caused by the Earth's gravity almost totally imperceptible (this is why the discovery of Earth-like exoplanets so difficult). Compare that to Pluto and Charon, which have distinct orbits around each other due to the fact that the barycenter lies far from the center masses of both planetoids.


    But I like the way you're thinking!



    I felt the Poll was a win, win for me because if I won I could crow on endlessly and if I lost I could claim you needed popular approval to support your position. Kind of like a PC moment. Dammit man you disemboweled my idea.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    While the Earth's gravity does act upon the Sun, it doesn't really orbit the Earth because the barycenter (which is one of the foci of the Earth's elliptical orbit) is extremely close to the Sun's center mass. This makes the wobble caused by the Earth's gravity almost totally imperceptible (this is why the discovery of Earth-like exoplanets so difficult). Compare that to Pluto and Charon, which have distinct orbits around each other due to the fact that the barycenter lies far from the center masses of both planetoids.

    But I like the way you're thinking!
    I never knew that, my idea was purely imaginative. I pictured the solar system traveling through curved space with the earth orbiting a spinning sun and causing an arc due to inherent wobble from outside and inside gravitational effects, like the centrifugal force of a hammer thrower spinning around and moving in a circle eventually due to the pulling of the hammer. I forgot to consider the masses of the sun and earth displacing the space around them making our planets movement around it more like a hair circling a drain indefinitely. This stuff gives me a brain cramp

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    This stuff gives me a brain cramp
    I highly doubt that.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I highly doubt that.
    Ok try this one.

    Is the universe made from finite potential energy or is its source infinite or zero? Because as the universe expands, this zero splits into positive energy of matter from the force of expansion/separation and negative gravitational potential energy. No energy is lost in the universe it is only transformed. E=MC2 shows the interchangeable nature of energy and mass. If the universe is expanding exponentially it potentially has an unlimited mass or energy field. The higgs boson gives mass to every elementary particle that couples to the Higgs field. If the unified field theory shows that their was an equal amount of matter/anti-matter after the big bang the reason that they didn't cancel each other out was the elimination of anti-matter by the big bada bing/bada boom...lol

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