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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    You haven't been twisting his words. That's just how he debates. As soon as he gets backed into a corner, he automatically accuses his opponent of "twisting his words." Or he calls them a liar. His position on political correctness is as illogical as Bill Clinton's definition of the word "is." On one hand, he doesn't "feel the need to conform" and yet some how that's different from not conforming. Don't worry about it. Your position is sensible and easily understood.

    Personally, I don't care if other people want to be PC. As long as they don't expect me to go along with it.
    To be 100% honest I was also being dodgy by changing the argument from "feeling forced", which is not the correct term to being unconsciously pressured. Tucker picked up on my deception and retreat when he called me out on acting the fool. It's a way to not admit error, hehehe. Though I agree thedriveplay was in retro mode also. And you're right you can feel the pressure to conform without actually being aware that you're doing it but it's not what I literally said. I'm not as good at hairsplitting details as making an overall observation.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    I want to correct a grammatical flaw with this paragraph.

    Color perception is somewhat known but still a theory. It's similar to the theory of light travel, is it in waves, particles or both? We don't have based on our limitations the ability to explain it yet. Our concept of reality is confined to our biological ability to perceive and imagine. Is the universe really only what we perceive or something altogether more or different? For example "if a tree falls in a forest and no creature is around does it make a sound"? I say it makes the disruption of the air creating the percussive waves necessary to make noise but until an ear has perceived it no sound has been made. Meaning that our inaction-> (interaction) with the universe changes it's very nature and that perception is everything.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    You haven't been twisting his words. That's just how he debates. As soon as he gets backed into a corner, he automatically accuses his opponent of "twisting his words." Or he calls them a liar. His position on political correctness is as illogical as Bill Clinton's definition of the word "is." On one hand, he doesn't "feel the need to conform" and yet some how that's different from not conforming. Don't worry about it. Your position is sensible and easily understood.

    Personally, I don't care if other people want to be PC. As long as they don't expect me to go along with it.
    He actually did twist my words which you would have known if you had actually read the conversation instead of being so desperate for negative attention that you had to interject yourself into a conversation just to make a negative comment about a poster who hasn't had a conversation with you in at least a week. I also find it funny that while I made the same comments about grip as other posters, you only chose to insult me. Must of struck a nerve, eh?
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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    To be 100% honest I was also being dodgy by changing the argument from "feeling forced", which is not the correct term to being unconsciously pressured. Tucker picked up on my deception and retreat when he called me out on acting the fool. It's a way to not admit error, hehehe. Though I agree thedriveplay was in retro mode also. And you're right you can feel the pressure to conform without actually being aware that you're doing it but it's not what I literally said. I'm not as good at hairsplitting details as making an overall observation.
    Really? You want to tell me how so, since I essentially said the same thing to you as Tucker did?

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    He actually did twist my words which you would have known if you had actually read the conversation instead of being so desperate for negative attention that you had to interject yourself into a conversation just to make a negative comment about a poster who hasn't had a conversation with you in at least a week. I also find it funny that while I made the same comments about grip as other posters, you only chose to insult me. Must of struck a nerve, eh?
    That's ironic.

    No, I just call it how i see it. The fickleness of others is of no consequence to me.
    “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Really? You want to tell me how so, since I essentially said the same thing to you as Tucker did?
    retro= meaning to recede, pull back, withdraw from the continuation of the debate.

    I'm not going to regurgitate the whole dialogue again but it was agreed the meaning of "force" in my context was pressure, being a form of force, not literally arm twisting. I'm not saying you ever did conform I'm saying "felt" any pressure. It would be almost impossible to say I'm so unaffected by others that I've never "felt" any pressure because I either agreed completely or absolutely rebelled as a non conformist. It's simply too extreme a statement because even to conform means to comply or act in accordance with a wish or command. Now if you lived in a cave or grew up in the wild then I would believe, otherwise almost nobody could convince me that they haven't felt some force of others be it parents, family, lover, spouse, child, schoolmates, friends, co-workers, boss, team mates etc. Even unconsciously we feel the effect of social pressure. Now to say "I make up my own mind and society doesn't choose for me" is believable but that society has no influence, nahh? I'd have to be a real Chucklehead to believe that. And I really don't care if you think I twisted your words, ears or limes I don't see how?

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    How many of you really hate PC but feel forced to conform or be an outcast?
    I never meant for it to be taken so literally or out of context, which is what I believe you did. Example, I use to smoke and there wasn't a place I turned that I didn't feel forced to quit and conform. But of course I ultimately chose to, like we all choose too. I wasn't literally "forced". We usually all want to belong to something, even the asshat club

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    I love this response... head slightly tilted up, looking off to an angle and a distance with regal dismissive demeanor

    The fickleness of others is of no consequence to me.
    off with the peasants head!

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    That's ironic.

    No, I just call it how i see it. The fickleness of others is of no consequence to me.
    That's a strange thing to say, since you put yourself into a conversation that weren't privy to just in order to point out such perceived "fickleness". If you want to fake not worrying about other people, you're doing a poor job of it by talking about them when literally NO ONE in the conversation is talking to you. Like I said, desperate for negative attention.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I never meant for it to be taken so literally or out of context, which is what I believe you did. Example, I use to smoke and there wasn't a place I turned that I didn't feel forced to quit and conform. But of course I ultimately chose to, like we all choose too. I wasn't literally "forced". We usually all want to belong to something, even the asshat club
    If you don't want people to interpret your sentence as meaning "forced to conform or be an outcast", then don't use the words rather than saying, "I never meant to say those words and you took them literally and out of context". That wasn't out of context. It was exactly what you said. You and eva belong together. Blame other people for responding to the words you put on the page.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    If you don't want people to interpret your sentence as meaning "forced to conform or be an outcast", then don't use the words rather than saying, "I never meant to say those words and you took them literally and out of context". That wasn't out of context. It was exactly what you said. You and eva belong together. Blame other people for responding to the words you put on the page.
    I see you left out the operative word "feel" in my quote when interpreted correctly means impressed upon. Are you being dense on purpose? I guess if I said "do you ever feel like you're losing your mind" you'd expect me go out looking for it? Come on now get a grip. Ooops you don't want one of those

    BTW just for future reference I make a garlic/onion encrusted, rump roast with brown onion gravy that'll knock your tongue off its rollers!
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