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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We have had a few discussions on the topic of politically correct topics lately, and it reminded me of a conversation on these boards from quite some time ago. I cannot remember what the discussion was about so the other person will remain nameless and hopefully unidentifiable. Who it is is not important. What I am going to ask is if I was being politically correct in this discussion.

    Conversation: something about Asians, some one calls Asians "oriental", another person points out that properly, the correct term is Asian.

    Me: I learned some time ago that Asian refers to people, Oriental to objects, so I always use Asian

    Other person: You are just being Politically Correct.

    Me: I don't think I am, it is effortless on my part to say Asian and I then don't have to worry about offending any one accidentally.

    Other Person: Exactly, you are trying not to offend, so you are being PC.

    Now, obviously this is somewhat paraphrased and condensed from a longer conversation. What I want to know though, is in the example I gave as I gave it, am I being Politically Correct to use the term Asian instead of Oriental?
    You're being very PC, because I bet you wouldn't normally make a reference to, "oriental", food vice, "Asian", food.
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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We have had a few discussions on the topic of politically correct topics lately, and it reminded me of a conversation on these boards from quite some time ago. I cannot remember what the discussion was about so the other person will remain nameless and hopefully unidentifiable. Who it is is not important. What I am going to ask is if I was being politically correct in this discussion.

    Conversation: something about Asians, some one calls Asians "oriental", another person points out that properly, the correct term is Asian.

    Me: I learned some time ago that Asian refers to people, Oriental to objects, so I always use Asian

    Other person: You are just being Politically Correct.

    Me: I don't think I am, it is effortless on my part to say Asian and I then don't have to worry about offending any one accidentally.

    Other Person: Exactly, you are trying not to offend, so you are being PC.

    Now, obviously this is somewhat paraphrased and condensed from a longer conversation. What I want to know though, is in the example I gave as I gave it, am I being Politically Correct to use the term Asian instead of Oriental?
    personally, i don't see why anyone thinks being "PC" is wrong. if there's a chance that a person would think you were being rude, why not avoid that? for me, it's common courtesy, good manners. which some people seem to think can be overlooked.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    personally, i don't see why anyone thinks being "PC" is wrong. if there's a chance that a person would think you were being rude, why not avoid that? for me, it's common courtesy, good manners. which some people seem to think can be overlooked.
    Because it's idiotic to tippy-toe around people's silly sensibilities. People should have more important things to get excited about and if they don't, there's something wrong with them.

    Besides that political correctness is nothing but thought engineering, that sometimes results in trampling on our liberties.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    personally, i don't see why anyone thinks being "PC" is wrong. if there's a chance that a person would think you were being rude, why not avoid that? for me, it's common courtesy, good manners. which some people seem to think can be overlooked.
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    better to be politically correct than politically in error


    back in the day, the use of 'oriental' was widespread and acceptable. so was the use of 'negro' to describe one's race
    today, both give the appearance of bad form; a mark of ignorance, if you will

    i find the use of the word 'jap' to be quite derisive, while many (often old) people use it freely. (most) with no intent to demean the japanese. our lexicon is rife with such distinctions ... to a degree, the choices reveal the users' level of sophistication
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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because it's idiotic to tippy-toe around people's silly sensibilities. People should have more important things to get excited about and if they don't, there's something wrong with them.

    Besides that political correctness is nothing but thought engineering, that sometimes results in trampling on our liberties.
    I agree with apdst partially. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Of course, this also means that religious conservatives who are against gay marriage have to stop whining about their little notion of marriage being destroyed by gay folks because that's pure BS.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're being very PC, because I bet you wouldn't normally make a reference to, "oriental", food vice, "Asian", food.
    Meh, I've heard people use both. Usually people more specifically say Thai food or Chinese food, so it's not a huge deal.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because it's idiotic to tippy-toe around people's silly sensibilities. People should have more important things to get excited about and if they don't, there's something wrong with them.

    Besides that political correctness is nothing but thought engineering, that sometimes results in trampling on our liberties.
    polite people respect others and their sensibilities.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I agree with apdst partially. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Of course, this also means that religious conservatives who are against gay marriage have to stop whining about their little notion of marriage being destroyed by gay folks because that's pure BS.
    not really. i think as you age you will find more value in good manners. because really, what's the POINT of offending someone purposely?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    polite people respect others and their sensibilities.
    I agree, but people who are overly sensitive need to grow up, too.

    My point is, political correctness has, in more than one instance, been used for thought control.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Politically Correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Usually people more specifically say Thai food or Chinese food, so it's not a huge deal.
    Are you talking Hunan, Szechuan, Cantonese, or what?
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