View Poll Results: What would it take? (Refer to OP)

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  • Nothing, I will always be loyal to the government

    1 3.57%
  • A major infringement of the constitution

    13 46.43%
  • Abdication of power to foreign or domestic institutions (eg. corporations)

    17 60.71%
  • A provably fraudulent election with no re-vote

    14 50.00%
  • Poor economic choices that continue to bankrupt the country

    5 17.86%
  • A persistently deadlocked congress / selfish representatives

    0 0%
  • Martial law or military jurisdiction without proper cause

    25 89.29%
  • Infringement of my personal property

    7 25.00%
  • My friends, family, or community being subjected to government tyranny

    15 53.57%
  • Other (please explain)

    4 14.29%
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Thread: Insurrection

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    Re: Insurrection

    Americans won't even vote the tosspots out of office! Why would they take up arms? Arms would be unavailable before most Americans waddle out to the street to see if everyone else is having trouble getting television reception.

    I say you must use the system to beat the system. We haven't tried that yet.










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    Re: Insurrection

    As it is, I'd revolt against the government if our nation somehow went the communistic route, as in totalitarian arrests, murders, corruption, and things of that nature. The question in my mind is, if people revolt, who is going to die? Pardon my rusty memory but I think it was either Pol Pot or Che Guevera, in his revolt, that many intellectuals were rounded up and murdered in order to reform the nation's school of thought. That thought in mind, how would this revolt go down? I understand this is a general poll but you've got to consider the ramifications. Putting those thoughts aside for a bit, what do you do IF our government becomes increasingly authoritarian and socialistic, as in highly regulated and controlled by the government... yet not violent(for now)? How do you stop the slow and steady descent into a virtually unfree nation?

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    Re: Insurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    As it is, I'd revolt against the government if our nation somehow went the communistic route, as in totalitarian arrests, murders, corruption, and things of that nature. The question in my mind is, if people revolt, who is going to die? Pardon my rusty memory but I think it was either Pol Pot or Che Guevera, in his revolt, that many intellectuals were rounded up and murdered in order to reform the nation's school of thought. That thought in mind, how would this revolt go down? I understand this is a general poll but you've got to consider the ramifications. Putting those thoughts aside for a bit, what do you do IF our government becomes increasingly authoritarian and socialistic, as in highly regulated and controlled by the government... yet not violent(for now)? How do you stop the slow and steady descent into a virtually unfree nation?
    Pike a few heads. You don't have to overthrow the whole of government, just take out a couple of officials and make it known that if they don't reform, we'll have no other recourse than engage in all out revolt.

    The one thing about the aristocracies of old, with the King and nobles and all that....every once in awhile, the People killed them to keep them in line.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Insurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The beauty of our system is that we can change it as we need. There is no need for armed insurrection. Outside of a coup, our government is our responsibility.
    that's a good point - but it leaves out the possibility of government collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's a good point - but it leaves out the possibility of government collapse.
    I do not see that as a terribly likely scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's a good point - but it leaves out the possibility of government collapse.
    No, it leaves out the possibility of voter apathy.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Insurrection

    I make it a point not to discuss the terms under which I would engage in open revolt against the government. All I'd be doing is telling the government when it needs to go gunning for me.

    I will say that all it would take would is a movement forming that I think would produce a better government than we have now-- and that in my life, I have never seen such a movement.

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    Re: Insurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not see that as a terribly likely scenario.
    I see it as a less than 50% likely scenario.... but not significantly less than 50%. maybe 37%ish.

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    Re: Insurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, it leaves out the possibility of voter apathy.
    I believe it was Voltaire who wrote that the best form of government was democracy tempered with assassination?

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    Re: Insurrection

    I chose oly three...

    Abdication of power to foreign or domestic institutions (eg. corporations)
    A provably fraudulent election with no re-vote
    Martial law or military jurisdiction without proper cause

    The great thing about this country is we have methods of non-violently changing the entire shape of government. The only way I could see armed revolt happening is if something happened to provably show that such methods are being forcefully denied.

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