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Thread: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Affirmative action may be discrimination based on race, but it is not racism.

    Just as Irish, Italian, German, or Israeli citizenship & immigration policies favoring people of certain ancestries & religions over others, is also not racism or ethinic or religious bigotry.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Race shouldn't be the focus. It should be on economic status. Like Sen Webb said from Virginia, he finds it hard to believe that a poor white kid from coal mining country has advantages over a middle class black kid from NY.

    The fact is the economic class of your parents has more bearing on where you end up than their race.
    This is entirely correct. Using race as a shortcut for economic status is just lazy, but it also pinpoints the problem that race is still often an indicator of economics. It's sort of still a valid tactic, though the question should deal with economics, not with race.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I guess I didn't say it, but thought it. I hold that position assuming that the minority students meet their minimum qualifications. The best and brightest should get a hand up, in my opinion.



    "We" are the taxpayers who pay for their education through our public school system. There is no such thing as an inferior college. If there is, I'd like to know which one. As for employers? We've had affirmative action in place for YEARS. Here's the Fed's position on it:

    U.S. Department of Labor - Find It By Topic - Hiring - Affirmative Action
    I can't disagree with you more. Race should not be a factor to consider when evaluating college applications.

    The fact that the fed govt uses racist policies to fill positions is beyond deplorable. I was talking about private businesses...should they be required to have a workforce identical to the demographics of the country? If so, we no longer live in a free country.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Do you think that employers really care if one got one's degree from Boston University or the University of South Carolina? Maybe one's first job...but after that, it's your experience that matters. JMO.
    Experience does matter, but my degree from Boston University opens me up to more chanes to get that experience. But it also makes a difference when applying to other schools. My 3.3 from BU looks better than my friends 3.3.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Affirmative action may be discrimination based on race, but it is not racism.

    Just as Irish, Italian, German, or Israeli citizenship & immigration policies favoring people of certain ancestries & religions over others, is also not racism or ethinic or religious bigotry.
    Just because you think it isn't, doesn't make it so. How do you define racism?
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    I ran across this Columbus Dispatch Newspaper article from Feb2011 at AmRen's website.

    Why is "skin color" still a qualifying factor for college admission in the 21st century?

    I suspect these policies are a whole lot more wide spread than just Ohio State and Miami universities?

    I thought liberals and the democrat party were suppose to be champions of the victims of racism?

    This is a yes or no/black or white answer with absolutely no grey area to hide behind.

    You either condone and defend racism OR you speak up and publicly denounce it here and now.

    I believe it is safe to assume that any poster who is afraid to cast a vote most likely condones racism.

    I have chosen the username to register with your vote, option...Lets find out who walks the talk.
    I know that such questions are asked more for demographic information - that is keeping track the number of students of different ethnicities applying and so on - rather than the decision making process with regards to admissions.

    But with regards to the poll, yes, I do think ethnicity should be a factor with regards to university admissions. I think that those ethnicities with low employment in certain fields should have affirmative action applied so people of those ethnicities can enter those fields. That way, people of all ethnicities will have access to those fields and occupations will be based less on ethnic lines.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Me? (I actually surprise myself by this opinion, btw.) I think that until the quota's filled, anyone meeting the requirements of the college who's a member of an under-represented race should be admitted solely on that factor.
    Can we go over the quota? What if I wanted to admit 20% black students in the university to apply even more social justice?

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Are people that meet the requirements denied access normally?

    Should somebody that meets the requirements of the college, but are of a race that is plentiful at the college, be denied admittence?
    Frequently, a college will have to make decisions based on space. Especially for higher status colleges. So they may be forced to pick one student over another when they are both qualified. It can get real tricky when it's down to the last few spots to say who gets in and who doesn't

    Grades are often a bad indicator of who will or won't succeed in college. Just because some white kid got OK grades at some suburban school and a black kid got slightly worse grades at an inner city school doesn't mean the white kid is smarter, or more likely to succeed. That's an overgeneralization, but the basics are true. If I had a nickel for every white kid who graduated from what's supposed to be a good public school, but still doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're"...well I'd have a lot more money, that's for sure.


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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Just because you think it isn't, doesn't make it so. How do you define racism?
    feelings of racial, ethnic, or national superiority over another specific group. or simple bigotry against another national/ethnic/religious group.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    My views on Affirmative Action summarized.

    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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