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Thread: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Of course, you are aware of the Gratz v. Bollinger case where the University of Michigan was awarding a 20 point bump for being black and only a 12 point bump for getting a perfect score on the SAT.

    Fortunately, the U of M was taken to task for such blatant racial discrimination. Still, one can only imagine what sort of AA/EO policies other colleges and universities have employed with their admissions processes, and may continue to employ.
    I can't comment on how widespread that scenario is since neither you nor I have any clue. However, I know that I went to a school that presumably uses AA and the quality of students was overwhelmingly exceptional (not just in grades, but in quality of thought and intelligence). There were some ridiculous people there, but they were of all races, backgrounds, religions, etc.. My college experience made it clear that AA is not the evil some make it out to be.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Others would call it leveling the playing field.
    Some would say the same for AA.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Anybody who wants to go to college can. Many community/junior colleges have open enrollment and also partnerships with major universities that guarantee admittance to the larger school if the student maintains the required GPA. So it's a matter of work and of will.
    Thank you, best post of the thread!

    The lesson should be, make your own way, build the better mouse trap -- OR -- complain about life not being fair and harbor resentments against people of color.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    This is pretty much the background of many racists. They blame some failure on a minority and then scapegoat that minority for the rest of their lives. There was actually a kid at my high school (not poor, rich actually) who didn't get into Northwestern University. His explanation for why he didn't get in, "Some black kid took my spot". I anticipate that he is going to harbor some of that racial animosity and it's too bad, since his dream is to become a Senator.
    On the other hand, the overwhelming majority of white students who are unfairly discriminated against by AA policy are never even aware of it.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    On the other hand, the overwhelming majority of white students who are unfairly discriminated against by AA policy are never even aware of it.
    Because they applied to more than one school...

    Or because it didn't really happen...

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Some would say the same for AA.
    You don't say?

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    On the other hand, the overwhelming majority of white students who are unfairly discriminated against by AA policy are never even aware of it.
    The overwhelming majority? I'd like to see something to back that up.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The overwhelming majority? I'd like to see something to back that up.
    Don't hold your breath...

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I can't comment on how widespread that scenario is since neither you nor I have any clue. However, I know that I went to a school that presumably uses AA and the quality of students was overwhelmingly exceptional (not just in grades, but in quality of thought and intelligence). There were some ridiculous people there, but they were of all races, backgrounds, religions, etc.. My college experience made it clear that AA is not the evil some make it out to be.
    Then again, by your own admission, you haven't got a clue.

    Think about this, as more and more minorities find their way into the upper tiers of the socioeconomic hierarchy, due to effectiveness of AA/EO policy over the years, such policy will have to shift toward socioeconomic status as the primary factor of consideration. Otherwise, AA/EO will increasingly degenerate from a solution into a problem.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The overwhelming majority? I'd like to see something to back that up.
    Please read carefully.

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