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Thread: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    The root of the black problem is the democrat party's policies of telling black americans they are too stupid to make it on their own without the assistance of a big government under the control of democrat politicians and that they are victims of all non-liberal whites, a racist system and american history.

    The part that gives me pause is that 90+% of black americans regularly vote a straight democrat ticket and the fact that they have so easily accepted the democrat party's evaluation of their intelligence and capabilities makes me question whether they actually are capable of competing in a modern capitalist system, free of government assistance.

    It is undeniable racism but for the last 40 years reality has been twisted and manipulated by the rules and taboos of Political Correctness which has led to government sanctioned and socially accepted racism and anyone who complains or objects is labeled a "Racist".

    Western Civilization has become a Common Sense free zone which helps to eliminate dissent and promote acceptance of PC NewSpeak when it does such things as reclassify illegal aliens as "Undocumented Workers"...White Guilt requires that you hang your head in shame and accept your fate.

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    There is no serious number of people telling them they are too stupid. Nor does the law allow us to give anyone admission based on race.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    The root of the black problem is the democrat party's policies of telling black americans they are too stupid to make it on their own without the assistance of a big government under the control of democrat politicians and that they are victims of all non-liberal whites, a racist system and american history.

    The part that gives me pause is that 90+% of black americans regularly vote a straight democrat ticket and the fact that they have so easily accepted the democrat party's evaluation of their intelligence and capabilities makes me question whether they actually are capable of competing in a modern capitalist system, free of government assistance.
    And it could not have anything with rational voters makign rational choices based on who they feel best represents their interests the same way everybody else makes up that choice now could it?
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Yes on the surface people look different, but that is only looks and skin color does not make people somehow different and diverse. Diversity comes from different back grounds. There is no difference between a poor Anglo or a poor Hispanic Etc. If a school is trying to build a good student body and a good learning environment, the first thing that should be at the top of the list is to treat all students equally.

    I realize that schools compete for students. But face it all students are lacking education otherwise they would not need to be there. It should be expected since our lower education system is lacking that students will show up at higher education institutions needing help. And it does not take a genius to figure out the more wealthy students had an advantage over the poor students living in poor conditions.

    Unfortunately even though I do not like the methods of Socialism, Socialists do make a good point when they assert that higher education is important. Socialists loose me with the "it should be free" part though, nothing is free someone always pays for it. We pay for public schools it is not free. But non the less there should be no barriers for the youth that want to further their education in a meaningful way. The benefits to society is huge.

    But we should regulate colleges strictly to benefit the students rather than the school. Perhaps many of the students with high debt were encouraged to train in a field that does not need them.
    Seems like a good way to make money by exploiting the naive students.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    If we don't "recognize that race exists," in regards to hiring workers/admitting students, we will severely damage the problem known as racism. Doing so would destroy both discrimination for and against people of different race.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Legally, in part due to AA, race can't be the basis for admission. That is why everyone who sues a colege for making a decision based on race wins.
    Do they?

    Last time I checked, it was perfectly legal to use race as a factor - though not the only factor.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Wow.

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    Open to interpretation?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There is no serious number of people telling them they are too stupid. Nor does the law allow us to give anyone admission based on race.
    Why would the democrat party, which presents itself as champions of minorities, promise to provide a government program for each and every need to take them from the moment of conception to the grave unless they believed that for some reason they were incapable of making it on their own?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And it could not have anything with rational voters makign rational choices based on who they feel best represents their interests the same way everybody else makes up that choice now could it?
    Of course, it has everything to do with making rational choices which is exactly what I'm talking about...That is if you are satisfied with the bare neccessities which are provided on the bottom rung of the ladder rather than reaching for the limits of your true potential.

    One party tells all americans they will strive for a level playing field to ensure all americans will have an equal shot at success if they are willing to work hard and make sacrifices.

    The other party tells us they must deprive some americans to provide for other americans who are disadvantaged because of the color of their skin and are unable to provide for themselves.

    The two parties will split the members of the group who have been designated to provide, into those who agree to provide out of guilt and those who dissagree to provide because the reasons are bogus.

    The americans who are reaping the fruits of labor of others will flock nearly 100% to the political party who is responsible for this endless gravy train and to ensure their future votes the party must maintain their poverty and dependence.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    ...Why would the democrat party, which presents itself as champions of minorities, promise to provide a government program for each and every need to take them from the moment of conception to the grave unless they believed that for some reason they were incapable of making it on their own?...
    you appear to be projecting your own views upon the Democrats.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Open to interpretation?!

    Why would the democrat party, which presents itself as champions of minorities, promise to provide a government program for each and every need to take them from the moment of conception to the grave unless they believed that for some reason they were incapable of making it on their own?

    Of course, it has everything to do with making rational choices which is exactly what I'm talking about...That is if you are satisfied with the bare neccessities which are provided on the bottom rung of the ladder rather than reaching for the limits of your true potential.

    One party tells all americans they will strive for a level playing field to ensure all americans will have an equal shot at success if they are willing to work hard and make sacrifices.

    The other party tells us they must deprive some americans to provide for other americans who are disadvantaged because of the color of their skin and are unable to provide for themselves.

    The two parties will split the members of the group who have been designated to provide, into those who agree to provide out of guilt and those who dissagree to provide because the reasons are bogus.

    The americans who are reaping the fruits of labor of others will flock nearly 100% to the political party who is responsible for this endless gravy train and to ensure their future votes the party must maintain their poverty and dependence.
    The americans who are reaping the fruits of labor of others will flock nearly 100% to the political party who is responsible for this endless gravy train and to ensure their future votes the party must maintain their bias towards the wealthy.

    see how that works?

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    I ran across this Columbus Dispatch Newspaper article from Feb2011 at AmRen's website.

    Why is "skin color" still a qualifying factor for college admission in the 21st century?

    I suspect these policies are a whole lot more wide spread than just Ohio State and Miami universities?

    I thought liberals and the democrat party were suppose to be champions of the victims of racism?

    This is a yes or no/black or white answer with absolutely no grey area to hide behind.

    You either condone and defend racism OR you speak up and publicly denounce it here and now.

    I believe it is safe to assume that any poster who is afraid to cast a vote most likely condones racism.

    I have chosen the username to register with your vote, option...Lets find out who walks the talk.

    Your deduction is lame. They still ask for race in job application forms. To try and and say that it is because they want to discriminate against "whites" is disingenuous - that has never been a factor.

    What you are suggesting is that they do away with the "race" question - then it will be impossible to prove that some "whites" are still willing to discriminate and only accept other whites.

    And, as for your comment about liberals and democrats being against racism, we show it in the legislation that we support, not in trying to come up with trick questions.

    Oh, and I happened to vote wrong, I don't think race should be a factor for admission, so sue me.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    The root of the black problem is the democrat party's policies of telling black americans they are too stupid to make it on their own without the assistance of a big government under the control of democrat politicians and that they are victims of all non-liberal whites, a racist system and american history.
    Please post a link to the Democratic party saying this, implying this, or doing anything that would lead a black person to this conclusion.

    I can post a link of Newt saying that kids in poor neighborhoods don't know how to work.

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