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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

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    He is not a conservative, I hope you are joking.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Ah, the young girl first discovering Ayn Rand... and learning a whole new language. New meanings for old words....

    Compassion is wicked.

    Charity is brutality.

    And non-existant racial bias admissions is...dum-dum-dum... racist...

    Well, at least the first two aren't fantasies.

    I think Ayn Rand basically attracts sheltered middle class kids with little or no real life experience and only faux accomplishments.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    they do. no one keeps you out. our problem isn't people who have the ability who can't go, it's people who are going who don't have the ability.
    I said and I quote
    I think every person who has the ability to go to a college or university should have the opportunity to further thier education. I also agree with you if any student regardless of race is not prepared to go should not be put in a situation of where they are expected to keep up with the other students,

    The real problem starts when a child enters school and is expected to achieve the same levels of work, we accept that children of the same age develope physically at a different rate but we expect those same children to develope intellectually at the same speed, our educational system needs to be totally revamped from kindergarden to graduation. A child should progress through school not based on age but on achieving the skills that are needed to progress. If skills are the basis for advancement then every young person who applies for college will be ready academically to continue his/her education, then a lottery system should be used for placement
    With the number of doctors, engineers and others that are needed we need to be sure that every person "USA citizen" who has the ability and desire to further thier education also has the opportunity, mommy and daddies money should not factor into what college and or university they attend. We need the brightest of our young people receiving the education needed to set the pace that will once again put the USA in the lead of technology and innovation. Our slide from being the best educated country in the world indicates a need to spend more on education and less on war and tax breaks for the rich.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Ive read articles about racism...newspapers, hundreds of forum topics on it...going back years and years...and the articles and reports back years ago...sound kinda the same as today...things have changed for the better...but if anyone thinks racism is going to end in their lifetime theyre in lalaland...blackdog said one thing that I believe is absolutley true...claiming every thing is racist or claming racism too often has the reverse effect...it doesnt help the situation at all.
    The people that seem the most racist to me are the ones that apparently have not been around other races for much of their lives...if you were raised in a mixed area and went to a mixed school...were in the military with other races and worked with other races your entire life like I have....one thing becomes glaringly clear...and its so simple its silly to even say...There is good and bad in all of them....we all bleed and pee and have to eat.

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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I haven't advocated that people should be let in on race alone. In fact, I stated the opposite. I haven't seen any other poster in this thread say that and as someone who knows many people who support AA, that's not a common argument of AA proponents. So like I said when you made your first post, you are just distorting actually AA arguments and then criticizing those.
    I don't mean to distort the opposing argument but race/ethnicity <--- For the PC crowed (you know who you are, lol) should play no role in getting a job or getting into school, period. I know no one is saying on race alone, but it should not be a factor. Without this the words "equal opportunity" mean nothing at all.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Segregation ended for the most part in the early 1980s.
    I seem to remember reading in the history books that segregation ended in the 50s, not the early 80s.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I seem to remember reading in the history books that segregation ended in the 50s, not the early 80s.
    You sir are the reason I refuse to discuss evolution with most people. If we go by your understanding of the world, animals stopped evolving in the year 3500 BC, the US civil war happened because well, white people who owned slaves got bored and Hitler just woke up one morning and decided to start hating Jews.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You sir are the reason I refuse to discuss evolution with most people. If we go by your understanding of the world, animals stopped evolving in the year 3500 BC, the US civil war happened because well, white people who owned slaves got bored and Hitler just woke up one morning and decided to start hating Jews.
    Do you have any credible links that state sponsored racial segregation ended in the early 80s? I seem to recall in history class that Brown v. Board of Education(1954) ended state-sponsored racial segregation. I went to school with minorities in the early 80s. A decade or two before I went to school my mom,aunts and uncle went to school with minorities, of course in their day it was forced integration. I never drank at any whites only drinking fountain or ate any whites only diners and I am pretty sure my mom,aunts and uncle didn't drink at any whites only drinking fountains or ate at any whites only diners.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    If blacks are so equal then how come they have to be patronized like this and get special treatment. I guess its not racism if the people being discriminated against are white.
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    Re: 21st Century Racism Is Thriving In American Academe

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do you have any credible links that state sponsored racial segregation ended in the early 80s?
    THAT IS NOT WHAT THUNDER SAID. Read his statement again.

    I seem to recall in history class that Brown v. Board of Education(1954) ended state-sponsored racial segregation. I went to school with minorities in the early 80s. A decade or two before I went to school my mom,aunts and uncle went to school with minorities, of course in their day it was forced integration.
    http://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/15/ny...ted=all&src=pm

    Despite the huge shifts in New York City's population in the 1980's, blacks and whites -- regardless of their incomes -- have remained as segregated as they were when the decade began, according to a block-by-block analysis of the 1990 census.

    During a period in which white non-Hispanic New Yorkers became a minority and the gap between black and white median income in some boroughs narrowed greatly, integration of the city's private and public housing proceeded only glacially, if at all.
    White flight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A practice further reinforcing unofficial segregation in states outside the South, where racial segregation was legal, were exclusionary covenants in title deeds and real estate neighborhood redlining[18] — explicit, legally sanctioned racial discrimination in real property ownership and lending practices. Black Americans were effectively barred from pursuing homeownership, even when they were able to afford it.[16] Suburban expansion was reserved for middle-class and working-class white people, facilitated by their increased wages incurred by the war effort and by subsequent federally guaranteed mortgages (VA, FHA, HOLC) available only to whites to buy new houses. Blacks and other minorities were relegated to a state of permanent rentership.[19]
    School Segregation in the 1980's: Trends in the United States and Metropolitan Areas. A Report by the National School Desegregation Project.

    No branch of the Federal Government has taken any policy initiatives toward desegregation since 1971. This report presents information concerning the status of minority enrollment in schools by state and by metropolitan area. The major findings are the following: (1) states with the greatest integration of blacks typically have extensive court orders requiring busing; (2) states in which blacks are most segregated have fragmented school districts within large metropolitan areas and no city-suburban desegregation plan; (3) a few states experienced a modest reduction in segregation due to state government monitoring of desegregation; (4) the northeastern United States is the most segregated region; and (5) in locations where Hispanic populations are concentrated there are no widely implemented desegregation plans.
    The pile of data showing that segregation didn't really end with the 1950s or an executive order(remember, that is your original claim) is extensive.
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