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    Re: Should it be treason for a President to break their promises made to get elected?

    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    Seems to be a trend for candidates from both parties to make promises to the masses just for manipulation to get elected, but then do the opposite once in office.

    My question is...

    Should Presidents who make promises to the masses to get elected only to do the opposite once in office be looked at as traitors?
    Only the most foolish of the fools will believe campaign "promises", or advertising in general..
    When man improves, then politicians and advertisers can be believed, this is happening slowly but surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    Seems to be a trend for candidates from both parties to make promises to the masses just for manipulation to get elected, but then do the opposite once in office.

    My question is...

    Should Presidents who make promises to the masses to get elected only to do the opposite once in office be looked at as traitors?
    Unless you want chaos, the answer must be no. Further, what incentive is there for politicians to lead if their options are limited by speeches or initial positions, and their status as Americans deserving of life in question? Next, how is it to be that a politician with such restrictions can arise approval from the populace without stretches in what is possible. Lastly, what is possible is not a guarantee for the end result.
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    Re: Should it be treason for a President to break their promises made to get elected?

    If this ridiculous idea ever came to pass, politicians would simply...stop making any promises.
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    Re: Should it be treason for a President to break their promises made to get elected?

    Maybe we do need more accountability in our society. Treason for breaking campaign promises, death penalty for jaywalking, drawn and quartered for exceeding the recommended daily sodium intake. That would fix us right up.

    (I fully expect Tigger to "Like" this.)

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    Re: Should it be treason for a President to break their promises made to get elected?

    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    Seems to be a trend for candidates from both parties to make promises to the masses just for manipulation to get elected, but then do the opposite once in office.

    My question is...

    Should Presidents who make promises to the masses to get elected only to do the opposite once in office be looked at as traitors?
    No, there are a lot of complications in office to not get something done. A law like that would encourage partisan breakdown of the government as one party just has to play the obstructionist role to get the other cast as "traitor". A President should be held to the Constitution, and gross violation of such should result in punishment.
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    Re: Should it be treason for a President to break their promises made to get elected?

    Traitors act to the detriment of the country. Letting down your voters is not the same as betraying your country.
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    Re: Should it be treason for a President to break their promises made to get elected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, there are a lot of complications in office to not get something done. A law like that would encourage partisan breakdown of the government as one party just has to play the obstructionist role to get the other cast as "traitor". A President should be held to the Constitution, and gross violation of such should result in punishment.
    I don't even consider it breaking a promise if a President (or whoever) can't get something done because of obstructionism. And a smart candidate only makes promises he/she can keep, such as "seeking" legislation.
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    Re: Should it be treason for a President to break their promises made to get elected?

    I see it's just another hit and run thread. Propose a ridiculous idea, see how all the posters oppose it and refute it thoroughly, then run
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    Re: Should it be treason for a President to break their promises made to get elected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I see it's just another hit and run thread. Propose a ridiculous idea, see how all the posters oppose it and refute it thoroughly, then run
    Not really, Just seeing a lot of frustration where people want to see changes in the direction this country is heading and voting someone new in office doesn't seem to change anything.

    There are some specific issues where candidates pound their campaign with an issue and then once in office the new elected President does a 180deg turn on the issue in essence deceiving the American people.

    Lots of good points put out on this issue explaining how it isn't treason.

    I personally believe some form of accountability should come about for outright deceptions to get popular votes only to do something different in office. Not sure how it could be done though?

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    Re: Should it be treason for a President to break their promises made to get elected?

    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    Not really, Just seeing a lot of frustration where people want to see changes in the direction this country is heading and voting someone new in office doesn't seem to change anything.

    There are some specific issues where candidates pound their campaign with an issue and then once in office the new elected President does a 180deg turn on the issue in essence deceiving the American people.

    Lots of good points put out on this issue explaining how it isn't treason.

    I personally believe some form of accountability should come about for outright deceptions to get popular votes only to do something different in office. Not sure how it could be done though?
    We do have a method for accountability. It's called "the ballot box".
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