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    Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    This is an idea I keep hearing thrown about, and was wondering DP's opinion on it.

    Would setting term limits for congresspeople (4 for Representatives, 2 for Senators) as well as changing their wage to one in line with the average income of an American citizen help force congress to be more focused on serving the people rather than simply serving themselves? Or would it simply make them more likely to seek out more cash from lobbyists and make it easier to insert shills for a specific group in a race?
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Why 4 for Reps and 2 for Sens?
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    i'm for tying their salary and benefits to the national average.

    especially vacation and health care options.

    also, if tax revenue drops, they can be laid off and rehired as independent contractors.

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    This is an idea I keep hearing thrown about, and was wondering DP's opinion on it.

    Would setting term limits for congresspeople (4 for Representatives, 2 for Senators) as well as changing their wage to one in line with the average income of an American citizen help force congress to be more focused on serving the people rather than simply serving themselves? Or would it simply make them more likely to seek out more cash from lobbyists and make it easier to insert shills for a specific group in a race?
    I am obsessed with term limits, I see nothing positive from having lifetime politicians. I think for every term served in the elected federal government, you should have to spend 10 years out of office in order to be eligible to run again.

    The states can do whatever they want.

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm for tying their salary and benefits to the national average.

    especially vacation and health care options.

    also, if tax revenue drops, they can be laid off and rehired as independent contractors.
    Seems a bit off-the-mark to try to lean on the 'national average' when it's average but not the norm: people's perks and benefits increase and improve as their value in corporation/business/society improves and increases.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Term limits are just a cop out for the voters. There are term limits - they're called "elections." If you feel that strongly about the incumbent, vote for the other guy.


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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Term limits are just a cop out for the voters. There are term limits - they're called "elections." If you feel that strongly about the incumbent, vote for the other guy.
    Yes - this.

    I hear it about the presidency all the time: "We don't have time to impeach him - election is next year" and "we don't have to put up with him much longer - elections are only two years away"

    Term limits remove people's concern for what's going on because 'it'll be over soon'
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    I would agree with pegging their salaries to some objective marker of economic performance, but I absolutely disagree with term limits. I want my government managed by professionals, not an endless parade of rookies that are forced out of office the very moment they start figuring out how to do their jobs.

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    No, it wouldn't do much at all. In Louisiana we term limit our state reps and they get around it by changing service, basically they will term out in the congress and then run for the senate, then when they term out there they find another elected position available. You would constantly have to pass new laws every time these reps found a loophole. The pay issue I would have thought was good until it was reported that these reps inside trade, money is already not a discouragement and their unique ability to do what we legally cannot in the market has immunized them from any monetary disincintives to make bad decisions.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Not sure about term limits, I think it would bring some positive elements, but it would also undermine the power of the people to elect the person they feel best represents their interests. As far as salary goes, the politicians should be subject to the same types of cuts/pay grade they're enacting for their local public sector.

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