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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Actually, I see it the opposite way. Term limits WOULD allow idiots like Gingrich to not harm the country over the long haul, but have forced good people like Kennedy out.
    Like I said, it's a double edged sword.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Like I said, it's a double edged sword.
    I agree. Ultimately, though, I think we all should be responsible for who represents us. You don't like your Congressman... vote him out. I don't want to be told that I can't vote for someone I like because he has achieved some sort of arbitrary limit.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I understand you personal opinion of those individuals, but I was just illustrating my point with my own POV.

    I wasn't claiming that just because I like, or dislike a certain congress critter, that everyone should agree with me.
    Understood. Felt like putting my 2 cents in about it. Landry was a good surprise, I don't know whether I'll vote for him or Boustany but they both are good representatives. I say let representatives stay as long as they can get elected because of the double edged sword, but strip away the things that we can from the "incumbent advantage" so that the race comes back to ideas. How to do that? Hell I have no idea but it's worth a look.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I agree. Ultimately, though, I think we all should be responsible for who represents us. You don't like your Congressman... vote him out. I don't want to be told that I can't vote for someone I like because he has achieved some sort of arbitrary limit.
    I hate to say this about a first amendment issue but I can't even blame the voters to as high of a percentage as in days gone by. We have a full scale media failure that picks a candidate and shapes coverage to get them the most time and best shot at being nominated and elected. I am not a fan of media control laws but until straight news organizations can get back on track to objective reporting maybe it's time for some temporary standards to be set, I like the idea of a "journalistic malpractice" charge. Hell, a doctor botches an operation it messes up one life, if the media likes a complete dullard and wants them in it can mess up a whole country. Given my history here I'm sure that carries a little weight.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Understood. Felt like putting my 2 cents in about it. Landry was a good surprise, I don't know whether I'll vote for him or Boustany but they both are good representatives. I say let representatives stay as long as they can get elected because of the double edged sword, but strip away the things that we can from the "incumbent advantage" so that the race comes back to ideas. How to do that? Hell I have no idea but it's worth a look.
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I agree. Ultimately, though, I think we all should be responsible for who represents us. You don't like your Congressman... vote him out. I don't want to be told that I can't vote for someone I like because he has achieved some sort of arbitrary limit.
    I believe that the bottom line is, instead of holding the politicians responsible, we should hold the voters responsible; not literally, because there's no way to do that, but there needs to be a movement in this country to get people more involved, politically, no matter which side of the political fence they may find themselves on. If nothing else, edcuate people on the difference between, "Liberal", and, "Conservative", and be able to identify the speaker, the vice president, the whips, etc. IOW, a political literacy test to qualify to vote.
    Last edited by apdst; 11-26-11 at 04:18 AM.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I hate to say this about a first amendment issue but I can't even blame the voters to as high of a percentage as in days gone by. We have a full scale media failure that picks a candidate and shapes coverage to get them the most time and best shot at being nominated and elected. I am not a fan of media control laws but until straight news organizations can get back on track to objective reporting maybe it's time for some temporary standards to be set, I like the idea of a "journalistic malpractice" charge. Hell, a doctor botches an operation it messes up one life, if the media likes a complete dullard and wants them in it can mess up a whole country. Given my history here I'm sure that carries a little weight.
    I agree. If I were President, my first act would be to execute every member of the media.

    Seriously, until we get some reasonable NEWS organizations, not "infotainment" which is all we have now, I have no faith in the American people to put into office anyone decent. Our politicians are spoonfed to us by the media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I believe that the bottom line is, instead of holding the politicians responsible, we should hold the voters responsible; not literally, because there's no way to do that, but there needs to be a movement in this country to get people more involved, politically, no matter which side of the political fence they mey find themselves on. If nothing else, edcuate people on the difference between, "Liberal", and, "Conservative", and be able to identify the speaker, the vice president, the whips, etc. IOW, a political literacy test to qualify to vote.
    Probably one of the most thoughtful on target posts I've seen in a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I agree. If I were President, my first act would be to execute every member of the media.

    Seriously, until we get some reasonable NEWS organizations, not "infotainment" which is all we have now, I have no faith in the American people to put into office anyone decent. Our politicians are spoonfed to us by the media.
    I get the tongue in cheek, but I would have a damn hard time opposing such a measure.
    Last edited by apdst; 11-26-11 at 04:17 AM.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Probably one of the most thoughtful on target posts I've seen in a long time.
    I bet that stings a little.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I bet that stings a little.
    Not at all. I never mind seeing a member... even one I often disagree with make a good post. In fact, I rather like seeing things like that. Shows that even folks who can disagree on most things can find some common ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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