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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It would be easy to drive a truck through the loopholes of any campaign finance amendment...
    Not my amendment.

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Why do you think this matters? The job is the job, and getting it done is more important than how you get it done.
    The point is that if the better performance of "professional" legislators was due to seniority rules and/or back-slapping connections with other professional legislators - rather than because they were better at crafting great legislation - then the overall performance of Congress would not decline if it was instead run by rookies. They would all be in the same boat.

    And I don't even see much evidence that professional legislators ARE better than the rookies, even with those advantages.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Not my amendment.
    What would your amendment say? I bet I can either find a loophole and drive a truck through it, or be horrified at its free speech implications.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Not sure about the wage thing.

    But term limits aren't a very good idea I think.

    Congresspeople already have Term Limits.

    They're called elections.

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Term limits are just a cop out for the voters. There are term limits - they're called "elections." If you feel that strongly about the incumbent, vote for the other guy.
    I've said this for YEARS. I am completely against term limits of any kind.. including that imposed in the 22nd Amendment, which I think should be repealed. Term limit are, as you said, elections.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That would be true if it wasn't for the fact that most registered voters do not pay attention to what their elected officials do.
    That's not a problem with the system and no reason to create term limits.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Term limits are a double edged sword. On the one hand, it would be a way to insure that some hoople-head--Kennedy, Byrd, Frank--doesn't spend 30+ years in Congress. On the other hand, it would insure that great statesmen--Landry, Beohner, Gingrich--aren't allowed to do great things for the country.

    As far as salaries go, well, you get what you pay for.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Term limits are a double edged sword. On the one hand, it would be a way to insure that some hoople-head--Kennedy, Byrd, Frank--doesn't spend 30+ years in Congress. On the other hand, it would insure that great statesmen--Landry, Beohner, Gingrich--aren't allowed to do great things for the country.

    As far as salaries go, well, you get what you pay for.
    Boehner is dissappointing the hell out of me right now. Sometimes you have to compromise, but he almost seems willing to pull the trigger on anything that comes his way. I haven't given up on him but he needs to live up to the potential that was seen in him. Landry was a pleasant surprise to me, I always had a negative feeling about him but he's been rock solid. Gingrich is brilliant, he's got baggage to shed though. Overall though I completely agree with your point.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Term limits are a double edged sword. On the one hand, it would be a way to insure that some hoople-head--Kennedy, Byrd, Frank--doesn't spend 30+ years in Congress. On the other hand, it would insure that great statesmen--Landry, Beohner, Gingrich--aren't allowed to do great things for the country.

    As far as salaries go, well, you get what you pay for.
    Actually, I see it the opposite way. Term limits WOULD allow idiots like Gingrich to not harm the country over the long haul, but have forced good people like Kennedy out.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Boehner is dissappointing the hell out of me right now. Sometimes you have to compromise, but he almost seems willing to pull the trigger on anything that comes his way. I haven't given up on him but he needs to live up to the potential that was seen in him. Landry was a pleasant surprise to me, I always had a negative feeling about him but he's been rock solid. Gingrich is brilliant, he's got baggage to shed though. Overall though I completely agree with your point.
    I understand you personal opinion of those individuals, but I was just illustrating my point with my own POV.

    I wasn't claiming that just because I like, or dislike a certain congress critter, that everyone should agree with me.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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