View Poll Results: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

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  • Yes, it would reduce corruption and ensure that congress was more focused on the American people

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Sure, but so is everyone else. Why do you think you are entitled to make the rest of the world revolve around you?
    Why not? If there is nothing that proves that anyone is more worthy than anyone else, why should I allow others to make the world revolve around them?

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    This is an idea I keep hearing thrown about, and was wondering DP's opinion on it.

    Would setting term limits for congresspeople (4 for Representatives, 2 for Senators) as well as changing their wage to one in line with the average income of an American citizen help force congress to be more focused on serving the people rather than simply serving themselves? Or would it simply make them more likely to seek out more cash from lobbyists and make it easier to insert shills for a specific group in a race?
    Doubt it. They're primarily motivated by prospects of reelection, and for the most part, that's what constituents have already been giving them. While Congress's overall approval rating may be low, folks love their own congressperson.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Why not? If there is nothing that proves that anyone is more worthy than anyone else, why should I allow others to make the world revolve around them?
    It's called civilization. You agree not to demand that the world revolve around you, and so does everyone else.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Just one term for everyone period. Since most of them are millionaires, they should work for free because they love America so much...it is what they say right? let them prove it! To top it all off, never again let any lobbyists into the congress under threat of prison. They wag too much under the noses of the legislators. It's like letting a naked woman walk into a locker room saying "come on boys, it's yours for the taking"!

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Just one term for everyone period. Since most of them are millionaires, they should work for free because they love America so much
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    About half are millionaires.

    To top it all off, never again let any lobbyists into the congress under threat of prison. They wag too much under the noses of the legislators. It's like letting a naked woman walk into a locker room saying "come on boys, it's yours for the taking"!
    You have no idea how lobbying works.
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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

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    About half are millionaires.
    You have no idea how lobbying works.
    I'm so glad that you know all about me and how my mind works. It will save me so much trouble in the future. Try this on for size...Pffffst!

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    Re: Would setting term limits and wages tied to average wage help motivate congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    I'm so glad that you know all about me and how my mind works.
    I didn't say I did. Based on what you've said here, I think you have no idea how lobbying works.
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