View Poll Results: Is this add accurate, dishonest, or does it cross the line?

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  • The add is accurate and does not distort Obama's words

    39 46.99%
  • The add is dishonest

    24 28.92%
  • The add is dishonest and crosses a line beyond the standard political add distortions

    18 21.69%
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    2 2.41%
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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    All you are doing is repeating the same personal attacks without any proof of your charges. Come on Dan - man up here. What do you got on me? Man up and prove it.
    We could start with your corporate conspiracy theory.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Somebody be done got called out!
    And that someone is you. More times than I care to remember.

    As for me, if anyone wants to call me out, they need to man up and stand their ground and back up their insults and personal attacks with actual proof.

    As if some righties here even understood the concept.
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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We could start with your corporate conspiracy theory.
    Please quote where I advocated any corporate conspiracy theory with quotes from my posts doing so.

    In the absence of your ability to do just that, you should man up and retract your words.

    I know fat chance of either happening.
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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Please quote where I advocated any corporate conspiracy theory with quotes from my posts doing so.

    In the absence of your ability to do just that, you should man up and retract your words.

    I know fat chance of either happening.
    Hey, no sweat, my man.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What you need to do is to quit creating excuses for corporations refusal to hire people and stop being willing to act as a sycophant and toadie for them when they even fail to achieve what you claimed that they would achieve.

    For the longest time all we ever heard is that we need to reduce corporate taxes. Why? Because we were taxing compaines to death and they had no money to hire more workers. If only the taxes could be lowered then that extra money could be used to expand and hire.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    All you are doing is repeating the same personal attacks without any proof of your charges. Come on Dan - man up here. What do you got on me? Man up and prove it.
    No, all I am doing is refusing to let you bait me into doing more than saying what pretty much everybody on this forum already knows.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hey, no sweat, my man.
    This is downright hilarious. Nothing in that post says one word about any conspiracy theory among corporations.

    This is really funny. You make an irresponsible and scurrilous charge. You get called out on it. Then you fall flat on your face trying to save face. This is amazing.
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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, all I am doing is refusing to let you bait me into doing more than saying what pretty much everybody on this forum already knows.
    Then it should be easy for you Dan. Really easy. Come on, man up and show us what you got on me.
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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Then it should be easy for you Dan. Really easy. Come on, man up and show us what you got on me.
    I think I'll just let you pointlessly question my -- what is it you're questioning anyway, my manhood or my courage or my integrity -- which you know nothing about, because now that I've pointed out what so many would call obvious, I'm all done with you.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I think I'll just let you pointlessly question my -- what is it you're questioning anyway, my manhood or my courage or my integrity -- which you know nothing about, because now that I've pointed out what so many would call obvious, I'm all done with you.
    Actually it is your ability to back up your mouth with more than just your words - find mine and tell us what is so objectionable to them.
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    Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hey, no sweat, my man.
    and apdst - here is the ENTIRE post that you selectively clipped about corporations not hiring.
    It is from the thread "They Did It On Purpose" - post 311

    What you need to do is to quit creating excuses for corporations refusal to hire people and stop being willing to act as a sycophant and toadie for them when they even fail to achieve what you claimed that they would achieve.

    For the longest time all we ever heard is that we need to reduce corporate taxes. Why? Because we were taxing compaines to death and they had no money to hire more workers. If only the taxes could be lowered then that extra money could be used to expand and hire.

    A truckload of reeking manure does not begin to do justice to that sorry conservative meme.

    Many businesses are rolling in billions today like a pig in slop but are they hiring as promised? No way jose - no way. And do you call them on the carpet for it since the sirens of the right played nonstop to allow them just to keep more money so they would then hire? No way you will. Now you accept some other poor mouthed excuse planted in you by ALEC or CATO or some other ring wing extremist organization and you just nod your head and do the Toadie Tango or the Sycophant Shuffle and accept it while you learn the new and latest excuse.

    Of late you have repeated the schtick that business cannot tell the future so they will not hire today. As if that is something different from previous history.

    The private sector cares about one thing and only one thing - maximizing their own profits. Hiring people does not figure into that goal if it is not necessary no matter how much money they keep, or how little they are regulated or anything else.

    And I am 100% sure that if regulations were decreased this afternoon and the hiring flood did not come - the CATO's and ALEC's of this world would come up with other excuses and the warriors of the right would learn a new Toadie Tango or a new version of the Sycophant Shuffle to the new tune.

    Its worse than pathetic.
    There is nothing in there about a conspiracy among corporations. It states quite clearly what motivates a corporation. It skewers the right wing who invents excuses why corporations are not hiring. It skewers the toadies and sycophants of corporations. It criticizes the lack of intellectual integrity among those same toadies and sycopants who quickly learn new excuses when the old ones fall short of reality.

    But sadly for you - NO CONSPIRACY THEORY.
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