View Poll Results: Did Democrats cause the super committee to fail on purpose?

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your argument is a political one based on an ideological extremist belief system that is intent on certain goals and objectives. In order to fight to attain them, it is necessary for you to adopt a certain vocabulary and subscribe to certain neologisms and memes as a right wing warrior.

    Your current posts are but a recent example.
    I find it amusing that anyone who doesn't buy into your welfare socialist mindset is an "extremist"

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    There is no debate...cutting taxs most certainly reduces revenue to the treasury and to say it doesnt is just disengenuous absurdity and teatard rhetoric...
    Bush's tax cuts and His passing the prescription drug plan TO PROTECT big pharmas disgusting USA pricing....is what began all this debt...
    yeah there is a debate and you cannot honestly make such a generalization and pretend its always correct. and it is not a cost no matter what-your paranoia of the tea party notwithstanding

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I find it amusing that anyone who doesn't buy into your welfare socialist mindset is an "extremist"
    Not everyone Turtle - not everyone. But you definitely are. Very few civilized people would publicly take a position to strip people of the right to vote if they do not pay a certain tax despite the Constitution saying otherwise. That is absolutely extremist. Show me five members of Congress - even extremist tea party whacko's - who agree with that extremist position. When you out fascist even the tea party - you are indeed an extremist.
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah there is a debate and you cannot honestly make such a generalization and pretend its always correct. and it is not a cost no matter what-your paranoia of the tea party notwithstanding
    No debate from me...I know the answer and its plain common sense and a part of recent history. Bush passed his drug plan because the country was up in arms over not being allowed to buy drugs from canada at less than HALF the cost of the same drugs here..RETAIL....it was exposed just how big pharma was gouging americans and just how much they were discounting their drugs everywhere else...drugs sold in mexico for 5cts on the dollar in canada for 25 to 50cts and here up to 400% higher and more.
    Bush passed the drug program to calm down seniors and he conveniently put a clause in the bill that the government COULD NOT NEGOTIATE PRICES FROM THE DRUG COMPANIES...they just had to pay whatever price they were given...can you even imagine how much that has cost the taxpayers...thats why YOU WILL pay more taxs turtledude...

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Not everyone Turtle - not everyone. But you definitely are. Very few civilized people would publicly take a position to strip people of the right to vote if they do not pay a certain tax despite the Constitution saying otherwise. That is absolutely extremist. Show me five members of Congress - even extremist tea party whacko's - who agree with that extremist position. When you out fascist even the tea party - you are indeed an extremist.
    I bet its far more common among us who carry most of the load. I suspect you don't know many of us who are in that group. and its hardly fascist. fascist is making people subservient to the state-as you propose

    people who have to pander to the masses to get elected aren't going to say stuff that pisses off the lowest common denominator.

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    No debate from me...I know the answer and its plain common sense and a part of recent history. Bush passed his drug plan because the country was up in arms over not being allowed to buy drugs from canada at less than HALF the cost of the same drugs here..RETAIL....it was exposed just how big pharma was gouging americans and just how much they were discounting their drugs everywhere else...drugs sold in mexico for 5cts on the dollar in canada for 25 to 50cts and here up to 400% higher and more.
    Bush passed the drug program to calm down seniors and he conveniently put a clause in the bill that the government COULD NOT NEGOTIATE PRICES FROM THE DRUG COMPANIES...they just had to pay whatever price they were given...can you even imagine how much that has cost the taxpayers...thats why YOU WILL pay more taxs turtledude...
    when Clinton jacked up the luxury tax did government revenues from that tax increase or decrease?

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    [...] fascist is making people subservient to the state-as you propose [...]
    Hardly. Fascism is abuse of power to stifle opposition, silence criticism, and impose nationalistic will upon others in a xenophobic fashion. In other words, pretty much the ideology of those that reside on the far edge of the right wing (e.g. Hannity, McCarthy, Cheney).

    What you describe would probably be closest to communism.

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Hardly. Fascism is abuse of power to stifle opposition, silence criticism, and impose nationalistic will upon others in a xenophobic fashion. In other words, pretty much the ideology of those that reside on the far edge of the right wing (e.g. Hannity, McCarthy, Cheney).

    What you describe would probably be closest to communism.
    fascism is something clearly too confusing to many on this forum-usually the people who whine anytime someone notes that the current dem leadership has some socialist or communist proclivities. If you think Hannity and Cheney are far right you are beyond help but then again you probably consider Obama a moderate given how far extreme left you are

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    fascism is something clearly too confusing to many on this forum-usually the people who whine anytime someone notes that the current dem leadership has some socialist or communist proclivities. If you think Hannity and Cheney are far right you are beyond help but then again you probably consider Obama a moderate given how far extreme left you are
    noticed that your post was unable to challenge Karl's illustration of fascism, and its current proponents within the USA
    instead, it whined about something else entirely
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I bet its far more common among us who carry most of the load. I suspect you don't know many of us who are in that group. and its hardly fascist. fascist is making people subservient to the state-as you propose
    So instead, people who work for a living should be subservient to you. That's not elitist at all, no sir...


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