View Poll Results: Did Democrats cause the super committee to fail on purpose?

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  • No, they actually thought a trillion dollar tax hike in a recession was reasonable

    9 12.68%
  • No, it was a bi-partisan failure

    28 39.44%
  • Yes, the plan from the beginning was to fail

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    NO CP - you got it dead wrong. Your link clearly states that the majority of the decrease was due to the recession. I reprinted that for you and you saw fit to ignore what contradicted your own belief system. Here it is again for your benefit... for your own link

    No doubt the majority of that loss in millionaire filings results from the recession.
    you mention the Clinton taxes and the Bush tax rates. I noticed you failed to mention the percentage of revenue increase under each. Why was that?
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    NO CP - you got it dead wrong. Your link clearly states that the majority of the decrease was due to the recession. I reprinted that for you and you saw fit to ignore what contradicted your own belief system. Here it is again for your benefit... for your own link

    So, if the government gets out of the way and let's people go to work, we'll see more tax revenue?

    Maybe we should try that approach, before we just jack everyone's taxes up. yes?

    you mention the Clinton taxes and the Bush tax rates. I noticed you failed to mention the percentage of revenue increase under each. Why was that?
    Two reasons: 1) Bush had a larger baseline to start from, than Clinton did and 2) Bush inherited a recession from Clinton.
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    ...Two reasons: 1) Bush had a larger baseline to start from, than Clinton did and 2) Bush inherited a recession from Clinton.
    when did the Recession that Bush inherited from Clinton, end?

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Here is my theory:
    Democrats never wanted the super-committee to succeed. They came to the table with over a trillion in tax hikes in a recession, which not only is absolutely stupid, it is also a non-starter. But what have they lost? Now military spending has to be cut and they don't have to take responsibility for it.

    What about Medicare cuts? Those cuts are to Medicare providers. Not only do Democrats not care about Medicare provider doctors, but they view this as a way to continue to destroy our healthcare system so that they can implement single payer.

    But the best part for Dems on the super-committee failure is that Obama can run against a do-nothing congress in 2012. His biggest hope for re-election is that congress will have a lower approval rating and he can try to identify congress as Republicans, even though Reid still controls the senate where bills go to die.

    As if to prove my point, Obama has sworn to veto any attempt by Congress to stop these draconian cuts to military and provider payments. The committee failure is all part of Obama/Biden 2012.

    What do you think?
    So tell me....exactly what have Republicans done to make things better since they won so big in the midterms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    when did the Recession that Bush inherited from Clinton, end?
    2003, or 04...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So tell me....exactly what have Republicans done to make things better since they won so big in the midterms?
    They haven't passed a bill opening up all offshore drilling, so you do have a point.
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    you won't get more revenue by jacking up nominal rates. you get more revenue by increasing growth and getting people back to work. and you will never get enough revenue to fund the federal government at it's current size.
    Here is the actual truth.

    Sometimes you get more revenue by jacking up rates, sometimes not. Sometimes you'll get increased growth by cutting taxes, sometimes not.

    It is complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So tell me....exactly what have Republicans done to make things better since they won so big in the midterms?
    I can't even think of a single republican piece of legislation that has made it past Senate Democrats let alone being signed into law.

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Bush inherited a recession from Clinton.
    So when you inherit a recession, you aren't to blame for it? Hmmmm.
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I can't even think of a single republican piece of legislation that has made it past Senate Democrats let alone being signed into law.
    And vice versa.

    P.S. Actual facts:

    http://www.congress-summary.com/B-11...gress_Seq.html
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