View Poll Results: Did Democrats cause the super committee to fail on purpose?

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  • No, they actually thought a trillion dollar tax hike in a recession was reasonable

    9 12.68%
  • No, it was a bi-partisan failure

    28 39.44%
  • Yes, the plan from the beginning was to fail

    34 47.89%
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The only problem is, Republicans aren't saying that. All we are saying, is that let's stop stifling job creation and create more revenue that way, before we go off half-cocked and raise everyone's taxes, during a depression. Basically, instead of more taxes, we create more tax payers.
    I don't know. When the debts have surpassed a certain level, you might have no choice but raising taxes anyway to get the necessary revenue, because the window of opportunity to do it by other means is long gone already. Also, taxes in the US are relatively low, you still have a lot of leeway upwards before it really strains the economy too much. Unlike over here in Europe, where taxes are already higher anyway.
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I say we let the Libbos raise taxes. It'll be a total failure at creating more revenue....
    except for the clear fact that Clinton's tax-increases on the wealthy in 1993 raised revenue during his administration by 75%.

    how much extra revenue did Bush's tax-cuts raise? 28%.

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    apdst thinks that revenues and deficits are not related. Why are we wasting time on this argument with him again?
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yes start a trade war with your biggest creditor. Sounds like a plan.
    They already started that by their cheating trade methods. This is just return fire. Or you can choose to continue being a Chinese suckup.
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    [emphasis added by bubba]

    let's do the math

    larger coefficient multiplied times the taxable income > smaller coefficient multiplied times the taxable income

    plug in some numbers and see for yourself that your assertion is very wrong
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    apdst thinks that revenues and deficits are not related. Why are we wasting time on this argument with him again?
    I never said that. Why do you keep insisting that I did?

    Did you find that equation to figure gross revenue?
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    except for the clear fact that Clinton's tax-increases on the wealthy in 1993 raised revenue during his administration by 75%.

    how much extra revenue did Bush's tax-cuts raise? 28%.
    And tax increases were the only reason revenues increased?
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    I don't know. When the debts have surpassed a certain level, you might have no choice but raising taxes anyway to get the necessary revenue, because the window of opportunity to do it by other means is long gone already. Also, taxes in the US are relatively low, you still have a lot of leeway upwards before it really strains the economy too much.
    The first step is to keep debt under control.

    Unlike over here in Europe, where taxes are already higher anyway.
    How are the Europeans economies doing with all those high taxes?
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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You need a better understanding of the situation before the Congress. Nobody needs to do anything. Nobody will vote to raise taxes. That process has already been agreed upon unless affirmative action is taken to stop it. So nobody needs to "raise taxes" in order for the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 to expire.
    There's not much difference between raising taxes and allowing tax cuts to expire. You need a better understanding of that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: They did it on purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's not much difference between raising taxes and allowing tax cuts to expire. You need a better understanding of that.
    Grover Norquist would disagree with you.

    Norquist: Letting Payroll Tax Cuts Expire Not a Tax Hike - US News and World Report

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