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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Paying for votes in elections is illegal though. Completely false analogy. Nobody is going around giving voters cash to vote for them. No, it's not at all like elections work in this country.

    Here's how they REALLY work: someone spends money on ads. Voters choose that person to vote for most of the time. That's 100% the voter's choice.
    I didn't pay for votes. I paid for the people who could run.

    That is what you don't get. The candidates you see on TV are only the ones who can obtain the funding from corporations, unions, and other special interests groups. The other candidates are filtered out because they can't obtain the funding from those groups. As such we only get to vote between candidates who are already in the pockets of corporations, unions, and other special interests groups.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    I don't have a problem with this idea. Nobody loses any rights since they can still donate as individuals.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I think reality doesn't support you. Our primary elections are generally competitive when it comes to money. And, again, the voters have the choice. They are not restricted to voting for whoever has money - they can choose anyone in a primary they want. Nothing stopping them.

    But, if you restrict political donations to individuals, removing the ability of corporations, unions, special interests, non-profits, etc., you can help insure that politicians aren't beholding to those orginizations.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I think reality doesn't support you. Our primary elections are generally competitive when it comes to money. And, again, the voters have the choice. They are not restricted to voting for whoever has money - they can choose anyone in a primary they want. Nothing stopping them.
    How much money does it take to run for President?

    It costs at least 300 million. That is the reality.

    Where do you think that money goes? Why do you think people who don't have that money stand a chance against those who do?

    I suggest you research this issue a bit more. You might be astonished how little of a representative democracy we have left.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    I would support stopping the contributions because it would mean less money for constant bombardment of voters with negative ads and half-truths/lies. It would also level the playing field somewhat between those with support of the rich and powerful and those with the support of the normal people.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    BECAUSE THE VOTERS STILL CHOSE HIM!!!!!

    If the voters prefer the guy who blasts the most TV ads at them, that's their choice!

    You missed the point. The one one with the most TV ads was there because someone(s) with money wanted you to vote for them. That scenario is putting the decision not in the voters hands but in the hands of those that gave the politician the money. Which negates the purpose and the design of our Representative Democracy.

    So in reality the voters did not make the decision, the backers with the most money did.

    People who vote for the person with the most TV ads reinforces the need for the Electoral College.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Would you support an amendment to the United States Constitution which would bar corporations and unions from financially contributing to elections?

    Why or why not?
    No.Because unions and corporations are a peaceful assembly of people and as such have the same constitutional rights as any other groups and individuals.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    I would oppose this. To my mind amending the constitution should only be done for really big things. This is not a really big thing.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not entirely accurate.
    Your source is completely wrong.

    Citizen's United is one of the most misunderstood decisions ever. It did NOT free corporations to give directly to candidates.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom From al View Post
    You missed the point. The one one with the most TV ads was there because someone(s) with money wanted you to vote for them. That scenario is putting the decision not in the voters hands but in the hands of those that gave the politician the money. Which negates the purpose and the design of our Representative Democracy.

    So in reality the voters did not make the decision, the backers with the most money did.

    People who vote for the person with the most TV ads reinforces the need for the Electoral College.
    Wow. You're trying to talk yourself into believing that the voters don't actually walk into a voting booth and make a choice.
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