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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The voters decide who the choices are. Primary elections, remember? Anyone can get on the ballot for a primary.
    Yeah, anyone can get on the ballot and the one (or their anonymous super pac) with the most money to campaign with usually wins.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeah, anyone can get on the ballot and the one (or their anonymous super pac) with the most money to campaign with usually wins.
    And why is that?

    The voters could choose absolutely anyone they wanted. Yet they choose the one with the most money? Why? Never mind, doesn't matter - all that matters is that the voters are making the choice. They are 100% to blame. And you don't get to question that choice either. Voters can vote for any reason they want. And then majority rules.

    There is absolutely nothing stopping the voters from voting for someone else. Nothing. They all go into the voting booth and make a free choice. They usually pick the guy who spends the most. That's their right.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    And why is that?

    The voters could choose absolutely anyone they wanted. Yet they choose the one with the most money? Why? Never mind, doesn't matter - all that matters is that the voters are making the choice. They are 100% to blame. And you don't get to question that choice either. Voters can vote for any reason they want. And then majority rules.

    There is absolutely nothing stopping the voters from voting for someone else. Nothing. They all go into the voting booth and make a free choice. They usually pick the guy who spends the most. That's their right.
    So we have the "right" to vote for whichever of the two corporate sponsored candidates they choose for us, eh? That's your idea of what the founders intended?
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So we have the "right" to vote for whichever of the two corporate sponsored candidates they choose for us, eh? That's your idea of what the founders intended?
    Don't voters vote for the candidate during primaries they want to represent their party in the general election in the USA? Exactly how do corporations chose candidates?

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Don't voters vote for the candidate during primaries they want to represent their party in the general election in the USA? Exactly how do corporations chose candidates?

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    And these primary candidates campaign for a year with no money................
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And these primary candidates campaign for a year with no money................
    Really? How do they do that? I would think it would take some money just to show up at the debates and townhall meetings.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Really? How do they do that? I would think it would take some money just to show up at the debates and townhall meetings.

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    You'll have to ask TOJ, he claims money plays no part in elections.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You'll have to ask TOJ, he claims money plays no part in elections.
    Where and when did I make that claim? You must really be confused.

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    And these primary candidates campaign for a year with no money
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So we have the "right" to vote for whichever of the two corporate sponsored candidates they choose for us, eh? That's your idea of what the founders intended?
    Um, no, did we not just cover the fact that the voters choose the candidates in the primary elections too?
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And these primary candidates campaign for a year with no money................
    Anyone can get on the ballot. Therefore, the voters can choose any one of them. Their choices are not the least bit limited. Candidates don't need money to get on the ballot in a primary election, and voters don't need to have money spent by a candidate to vote for him or her. So you were completely wrong.

    Here's the bottom line - votes are freely choosing the guy who spends the most money. I don't know why, and I don't care why. That's their choice. To say they don't have a choice is bull. It's relieving the voters of responsibility for their actions. It's like blaming McDonald's spending money on TV ads for your extra fat, when you freely choose to go to a McDonald's, buy a Big Mac, and eat it.
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