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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    you keep banking on meaningless polls.... i'll keep banking on 200+ years of historical fact.
    we'll meet up after the elections and see who fared better... deal?

    do you realize the number one reason an incumbent leaves office is ..retirement?
    running for reelection and losing is not common whatsoever.
    It should tell you something, that you could not come up with a single thing the GOP has done since 2010 that a great majority of the American public approves of.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    how do you know we can't limit the politicians themselves?.. it's never been attempted by any congress... ever.
    lots of attempts at limiting the private money though... every single attempt has been a failure.

    i'm assuming that your idea of starting on level ground has something to do with public financing...
    there are lots of problems with that as well... mostly i balk at the idea because i do not want my money going to candidates i do not support...i don't care if it's the name of equality or some such nonsense... it's wrong.
    Im talking limiting the candidates and politicians when running for office...and leveling the playing field...everyone has the same amount of everything....Now they have the untasteful necessity to actually run on ideas to STAND OUT...not merely stand out because they have the most money to flood their district with ads...

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It should tell you something, that you could not come up with a single thing the GOP has done since 2010 that a great majority of the American public approves of.
    yes, it tells me i'm not interested in entertaining your red herrings.

    whatever the GOP ( or Democrats for that matter) has done or not done is irreverent to my argument.

    there comes a time in life when peoples political idealism is slaughtered upon altar of stark reality... sadly, your time is coming .. and it's fine that you refuse to even entertain that as a possibility , let alone an inevitability... that's your choice to make

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Im talking limiting the candidates and politicians when running for office...and leveling the playing field...everyone has the same amount of everything....Now they have the untasteful necessity to actually run on ideas to STAND OUT...not merely stand out because they have the most money to flood their district with ads...
    ya mean like limiting candidate expenditures?... i'm cool with that.
    so far all we have ever done is try to limit constituent contributions, and i'm not cool with that.

    not sure how you are going to guarantee equal airtime though.... not sure you should even try.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yes, it tells me i'm not interested in entertaining your red herrings.

    whatever the GOP ( or Democrats for that matter) has done or not done is irreverent to my argument.

    there comes a time in life when peoples political idealism is slaughtered upon altar of stark reality... sadly, your time is coming .. and it's fine that you refuse to even entertain that as a possibility , let alone an inevitability... that's your choice to make

    The fact that the GOP has not done a single thing since 2010 that a great majority of Americans approve of, is a red herring in a discussion of possible election results?

    That is certainly a unique reality you've got going there.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ya mean like limiting candidate expenditures?... i'm cool with that.
    so far all we have ever done is try to limit constituent contributions, and i'm not cool with that.

    not sure how you are going to guarantee equal airtime though.... not sure you should even try.
    Thats exactly what im saying....you cant stop people from giving money to them...we have to make it so everyone can spend the same amount.

    Every candidate gets the same amount of airtime...they get the same amount to spend on ads etc...all taxpayer funded...may the best person win...NOT THE RICHEST PERSON...it ends the influence of the George Soros and Koch brothers of the world and gives it to all the voters...

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The fact that the GOP has not done a single thing since 2010 that a great majority of Americans approve of, is a red herring in a discussion of possible election results?

    That is certainly a unique reality you've got going there.
    as i said, it's irrelevant to my argument.

    if you want someone to come in here and trumpet the GOP.. go find a Republican... i'm sure they will entertain your wishes.

    I'm a Libertarian, i'll trumpet the Libertarian Party, not any other party.. if that's ok with you.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Thats exactly what im saying....you cant stop people from giving money to them...we have to make it so everyone can spend the same amount.

    Every candidate gets the same amount of airtime...they get the same amount to spend on ads etc...all taxpayer funded...may the best person win...NOT THE RICHEST PERSON...it ends the influence of the George Soros and Koch brothers of the world and gives it to all the voters...
    ok.. me and you see eye to eye then... good to know.

    as an additional measure, i'd also mandate that any "extra" contributions in a candidate coffers at election time would go directly to the general fund.... which oughta give people/corps/unions pause when they go to donate.. knowing that their money might not go to a candidate directly;, but instead go right into the general account will hopefully mitigate jumping through legal hoops to get money into their favorite politicians hands.
    of course, they might decide just to spend the money themselves on electioneering communications, but that's fine with me.. it's their right to do so.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I'm a Libertarian, i'll trumpet the Libertarian Party, not any other party.. if that's ok with you.
    Hey, whatever floats your boat! Aren't Libertarians opposed to an election process that excludes them because of the private funding for the main parties?
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Hey, whatever floats your boat! Aren't Libertarians opposed to an election process that excludes them because of the private funding for the main parties?
    private funding of the main parties does not exclude us from the election process....we advocate for trusting people to fund who they want, with however much they want to give... to do otherwise would be against the stated principles of the party.

    we oppose limits on free speech and we oppose our incumbency protection acts .. (better known as campaign finance reform act, McCain Fiengold)
    we find that the citizens united decision, while certainly a step in the right direction, didn't go far enough in releasing the grip the major parties/incumbents have on our system.

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