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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

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    Reform, my concept, is to have very restricted political campaigns with very limited money used. Stopping these two sources , liberal and conservative,is but a step ion the right direction.. But do not expect any support from the conservatives (the political party from the 18th century).

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I would support any law that helps bring lobbying to an end. Lobbyists are useless individuals, and I hope one of them reads this statement and knows that's what I think of them.
    Lobbying is not necessarily an evil...
    I think that all groups should be heard...equally.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Okay, but you wouldn't say that you have no freedom of speech that involves your car, like, say, a bumper sticker. It's on your car, but it's still your speech. Or to use your car to drive around with a megaphone and speak your mind. And the people who own or run a corporation or other group can use it too, as much as they can use their personal property or money, to exercise their rights.
    The difference being that no court would recognize my car as having personhood. Also being that no one else is employed to run my car they do not get associated with "supporting" someone that was elected and turned out to be a bad egg. In this country the phrase "guilt by association" is rampant.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    No, because that's an unnecessary law.
    I do agree that we should have no more laws than what is necessary. But, then we have "lawbreakers" and criminals..
    IMO, it is criminal for any one group or individual to "buy an election".

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    An organization or a social entity in the way that you are talking about usually has one common goal directed at something specific, usually some sort of ideology or cause. Like La Raza, or anti-abortion/pro-choice or some such. In such cases everyone that is a part of those organizations agree on one basic principle. Why? Because each member of those types of organizations joined that organization for that specific purpose. As such it is logical that one or a few people speak for the whole. A corporation however has no such common goals. The ones that control the corporation does not ask Joe Blow that works in the mail department what ideas he may have or what politician he supports and no corporation requires any of thier employees to follow any specific credo. The only reason that people are a part of any corporation is to make money, not to be supporters or non-supporters to an ideaology. As such comparing the two is like comparing a human to a rock.
    So what? Rights are not conditioned on the purpose of an organization.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The difference being that no court would recognize my car as having personhood. Also being that no one else is employed to run my car they do not get associated with "supporting" someone that was elected and turned out to be a bad egg. In this country the phrase "guilt by association" is rampant.
    Of course no court would say your car is a person. But that's irrelevant. The SCOTUS did not declare corporations to be persons in Citizens United either. It simply said speech cannot be abridged regardless of the source.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I would, as long as it applied to every kind of orginization: special interests, lobbying firms, non-profits, you name it. Also, i would support it if it made foreign donations illegal.

    Oh, and if you don't pay taxes, are on welfare, or collect any kind of government assistance, grant, or loan, you can't donate to a political campaign.
    Ridiculous, but then "very conservative" says it all.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Since so many people are camping out screaming about corporate greed, I can't for the life of me understand why more people wouldn't want to stop the flow of corporate (and Union) money from going into the hands (and pockets) of greedy politicians. If they want the position so badly, let them stomp the pavement and collect dollars from private individuals or spend their own money if they think they are so much smarter than the average bear.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    I think we're in need of a law that reduces the overall amount of money going into political campaigns and increases the relative value of individual donations to those campaigns. Restricting corporate and union donations would do both. Could tie the limit on donations to a percentage of income taxes payed in the last year, so wealthy individuals can still donate more. I'd want donations to be open to public knowledge though. Anonymous donations are a cancer in our political system.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Since so many people are camping out screaming about corporate greed, I can't for the life of me understand why more people wouldn't want to stop the flow of corporate (and Union) money from going into the hands (and pockets) of greedy politicians.
    Since all corporate or union donations to candidates are ALREADY ILLEGAL and have been for a long long time, and still are after Citizen's United, you don't have much of a point. The only source of money for campaigns is PACs (which can be sponsored by unions and corporations but can't use their money - they have to get voluntary donations from members, shareholders, etc) or individuals or parties.
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