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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    OK but they still run ads that can influence elections through there money laundering organizations and PACs
    They don't need to "launder" that money. They can spend that directly.

    It still really eats at the heart of the core of what or who is really representing Americans.
    No it doesn't. It's free speech. That's good. You can handle it, and so can the rest of the people. They aren't stupid children who need our supervision on what to hear or see.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    ok I like this dirty under handed way they run elections currently, I was just playing devils advocate sorry.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    I voted yes, but I think Unions are more similar to PACs than corporations. I don't think I have as much a problem with PACs/Unions as I do corporations, because the former vote in the general interests of all their constituents, while the latter vote primarily for a certain class of their own constituents, often at the expense of the others. If shareholders wanted to create some sort of "union" to collect contributions up to the statutory individual maximum for political purposes, I'd be fine with that too.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Those of you who oppose "personhood" for corporations, are you willing to give up the ability to tax them, sue them or even criminally prosecute them? After all, if they're not legally "persons" how can they ever have the requisite mental state to prove civil or criminal liability?

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    Just think 600 million tax dollars used to elect someone.... When we could of used that to save kids or give hand outs to the poor.
    Yes, I'm sure a Conservative like Maggie would agree to that and not call it "socialism". You're talking to somebody who thinks "wealth distribution" is the purist definition of socialism.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I voted yes, but I think Unions are more similar to PACs than corporations. I don't think I have as much a problem with PACs/Unions as I do corporations, because the former vote in the general interests of all their constituents, while the latter vote primarily for a certain class of their own constituents, often at the expense of the others. If shareholders wanted to create some sort of "union" to collect contributions up to the statutory individual maximum for political purposes, I'd be fine with that too.
    You failed. Try again. Everything you said is utter bull****. In your worldview, it's "us" and "them." You believe in restricting the 1st Amendment rights of certain groups while leaving them open for others.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Those of you who oppose "personhood" for corporations, are you willing to give up the ability to tax them, sue them or even criminally prosecute them? After all, if they're not legally "persons" how can they ever have the requisite mental state to prove civil or criminal liability?
    Give up taxing them? Yes, but I would want to make sure dividends are taxed fairly on the individual side and the corporate form can't be abused to help wealthy people avoid paying income tax.

    Criminal liability? No. If a constituent of a corporation commits a crime while acting in his corporate capacity, the victim should be able to access the corporation's account to recover damages, and should not be limited to seeking recovery from the offenders individually. But I think that can be justified on grounds other than "personhood."
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, I'm sure a Conservative like Maggie would agree to that and not call it "socialism". You're talking to somebody who thinks "wealth distribution" is the purist definition of socialism.
    You just cannot see past your own personal dislike for someone long enough to even see that Maggie actually agrees with mostly liberals on this issue. Seriously, you're just obviously incapable of discussing a topic without making it personal. What a baby you are.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Do not start with any argument with a premise that you are smarter than the voters, etc. Won't go anywhere with me.
    I am a "voter" how can I be smarter than myself?

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Would you support an amendment to the United States Constitution which would bar corporations and unions from financially contributing to elections?

    Why or why not?
    No, because donating money is free speech.

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