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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Absolutely.

    And barring professional lobbyists from D.C.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Lord. The first thing a greedy billionaire would do would be to create 5 million small corporations solely for the purpose of having 5 million votes.
    I was half joking, but you're ****ing right.

    The upcoming elections are going to be a propaganda ****storm.

    With any luck it will leave such a bad taste in everyones mouth they'll force some changes.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Absolutely.

    And barring professional lobbyists from D.C.
    Lobbying is a fundamental right protected by the First Amendment.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    False.

    Voters have a choice of anyone they want. They can vote in the primaries, remember? Their choices are not limited. Anyone can run in a primary election, even with little or no money, and get on the ballot.
    That is disingenuous at best...
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is disingenuous at best...
    Why? Just saying so doesn't make it so. Nothing I said is inaccurate.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    What is the purpose of a corporation?
    Primarily to provide limits to individual liability.

    There is absolutely no need to confer "personhood" on a non-human entity.

    Other mechanisms could be easily devised to facilitate business and provide liability limits WITHOUT conferring personhood.

    All those people who make up a corporation ALREADY have rights. They have no need for an ADDITIONAL voice.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Obviously a restriction on spending money on speech is a restriction on speech. It's absurd to say otherwise. That's the whole point of the restriction - to limit speech.

    Suppose the government passed a law saying you can't spend money on an abortion. Would that be a restriction on abortion rights? Of course.

    How about a law that says you have a right to an attorney - you just can't pay him. Obviously unconstitutional.

    Hey, I've got it! A law that says you can't buy a gun. You can own one, you see, just not buy one.

    Imagine a law that says you can't buy bumper stickers, signs, paint - or even pay money to register a URL for a website.
    Wallets cannot be compared to voices. We each have one voice. Some people have one dollar, others have millions.

    The comparison is absolutely ridiculous.

    You can get an abortion without money. Lawyers work pro bono. none of those comparisons are anything like buying an election where another person will vote the way that you (the few) want against the opposition of (the many).
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Why? Just saying so doesn't make it so. Nothing I said is inaccurate.
    It makes it so because it is so.
    It isn't inaccurate and that is what makes it disingenuous.
    We obviously can't vote for whoever we want.
    We obviously are limited to who is presented to us.
    We are obviously limited to who wants to be in office.

    To say otherwise is absurd.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I could care less what SCOTUS says on that matter... spending money to influence a campaign is not speech, even if metaphorically. They are wrong.
    tell that to every media outlet that has ever existed in this country.....

    hell, under your regime , the Federalist Papers couldn't be published...

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Lobbying is a fundamental right protected by the First Amendment.
    Unless we all have equal access to lobby, this is nothing more than another disingenuous comment. We don't. We can "lobby" all we want by writing them, but we don't have equal access to lawmakers time. We can't lunch with them or get into their offices and present bills for consideration. Do you work for the DC machine or something?
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