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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Im all for it...but it has to be NO personal donations either...or it wont work...the rich would still control elections..

    Im all for the Govt giving each candidate X amt of cash to campaign with and mandating FREE air time on tv and thats it...
    With the limited time they will have to to talk about what they are actually going to do...and spare the rest of us months up on months of bs...like this absurd gop primary.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Wow. You're trying to talk yourself into believing that the voters don't actually walk into a voting booth and make a choice.
    They do indeed.

    They choose between the options provided to them by monied interests.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by snodog View Post
    85% of elections are won by whomever spends the most money. What does that say about the intelligence of the average voter?
    If your conclusion is that voters are dumb, why let them vote in the first place?
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    They do indeed.

    They choose between the options provided to them by monied interests.
    False.

    Voters have a choice of anyone they want. They can vote in the primaries, remember? Their choices are not limited. Anyone can run in a primary election, even with little or no money, and get on the ballot.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Im all for it...but it has to be NO personal donations either...or it wont work...the rich would still control elections..

    Im all for the Govt giving each candidate X amt of cash to campaign with and mandating FREE air time on tv and thats it...
    With the limited time they will have to to talk about what they are actually going to do...and spare the rest of us months up on months of bs...like this absurd gop primary.
    So now the government has total control over the election process! Great!
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    I would absolutely oppose it... lock ,stock, and barrel.

    you have the right limit your own speech by not donating, but leave everyone else to decide for themselves.

    and I will not support public financing either... I do not want my , or anyone else's, tax dollars going to candidates that I/they do not support for election.

    so tired of people wanting to strip other people/groups of their rights it isn't even funny... we are turning into a nation of fascists.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    False.

    Voters have a choice of anyone they want. They can vote in the primaries, remember? Their choices are not limited. Anyone can run in a primary election, even with little or no money, and get on the ballot.
    lots of people think everyone else shouldn't have rights or choice... only themselves.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    lots of people think everyone else shouldn't have rights or choice... only themselves.
    Or worse - that someone else having a right means they don't. Usually, that's a nice excuse for laziness.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You can't limit spending on speech. That's a violation of the First Amendment.

    Buckley v. Valeo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I could care less what SCOTUS says on that matter... spending money to influence a campaign is not speech, even if metaphorically. They are wrong.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I could care less what SCOTUS says on that matter... spending money to influence a campaign is not speech, even if metaphorically. They are wrong.
    Obviously a restriction on spending money on speech is a restriction on speech. It's absurd to say otherwise. That's the whole point of the restriction - to limit speech.

    Suppose the government passed a law saying you can't spend money on an abortion. Would that be a restriction on abortion rights? Of course.

    How about a law that says you have a right to an attorney - you just can't pay him. Obviously unconstitutional.

    Hey, I've got it! A law that says you can't buy a gun. You can own one, you see, just not buy one.

    Imagine a law that says you can't buy bumper stickers, signs, paint - or even pay money to register a URL for a website.
    Last edited by misterman; 11-21-11 at 09:25 PM.
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