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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Taxation without representation. So if corporations can't support their desired representation, then it would be unfair to tax them.

    According to this FEC regulation, corporations and unions are currently prohibited from making political contributions: Citizens' Guide
    Considering this thread's topic, I would like some clarification on how the corporations and unions are currently skating around the federal restriction. Do they have individuals set up committees and then they fund the committee?

    Regardless, even if we allowed the two to make contributions, how would we decide the maximum contribution amount, like individuals have maximum contribution amounts.

    And, to support representation of taxation, do we then give corporations the right to vote, and, if so, how many votes does a corporation get.

    This could become involved.

    Keeping this all fair would be a challenge.
    I think it would be good to go whole hog.

    Citizenship for corporations.

    1 vote each.

    Limited to individual donation limits.

    "Incarceration" for criminal conviction. All profits for the length of the sentence go to the state. No dividends. No bonuses. Criminal sanctions for members of said corporation who play games trying to "beat" this system.

    If they want to be people, let them be PEOPLE.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    That, and modify FCC licenses so that "x" number of commercial slots are made available to candidates during election season as part of their PSA requirements. Passed out by a lottery, so nobody knows what slots they're getting beforehand.
    Which will just mean that politicians will pay for internet advertisements to get an edge instead.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I think it would be good to go whole hog.

    Citizenship for corporations.

    1 vote each.

    Limited to individual donation limits.

    "Incarceration" for criminal conviction. All profits for the length of the sentence go to the state. No dividends. No bonuses. Criminal sanctions for members of said corporation who play games trying to "beat" this system.

    If they want to be people, let them be PEOPLE.
    Lord. The first thing a greedy billionaire would do would be to create 5 million small corporations solely for the purpose of having 5 million votes.
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    BECAUSE THE VOTERS STILL CHOSE HIM!!!!!

    If the voters prefer the guy who blasts the most TV ads at them, that's their choice!
    But what if they prefer the guy NOT pre-selected by money in the "wealth primary"?

    Money chooses who we get to choose from, then its just a game to determine who gets to feed at the national trough FIRST, and who has to settle for sloppy seconds.

    But we still get who money wants, 94% of the time.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I think it would be good to go whole hog.

    Citizenship for corporations.

    1 vote each.

    Limited to individual donation limits.

    "Incarceration" for criminal conviction. All profits for the length of the sentence go to the state. No dividends. No bonuses. Criminal sanctions for members of said corporation who play games trying to "beat" this system.

    If they want to be people, let them be PEOPLE.
    What is the purpose of a corporation?
    "Yes I read the 9th [amendment]. It doesn't say **** about abortion." -Jamesrage

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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No, because no politician in their right mind would choose a limited fund over an unlimited amount. The whole point to my idea is to eliminate private money from politics completely, so any form of private money makes screws the pooch with me.
    Actually, I think x's idea might work.

    Who would yoy vote for?

    The guy who took no special interests money, or the guy who runs on pubpic financing?

    Who do you think would be most likely to be working for YOU?

    And it might even be passable, where eliminating money is not, because it would require congress critters to vote AGAINST their own interests.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    But what if they prefer the guy NOT pre-selected by money in the "wealth primary"?
    They vote in the primaries too, remember?
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Actually, I think x's idea might work.
    It's already in place for presidential elections.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Which will just mean that politicians will pay for internet advertisements to get an edge instead.
    I've got a crazy idea to get around all this, but its crazy.

    Trust the voters.

    Nah, sorry, never mind.
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    Re: Would you support an amendment barring corporate and union money from elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Do not start with any argument with a premise that you are smarter than the voters, etc. Won't go anywhere with me.
    85% of elections are won by whomever spends the most money. What does that say about the intelligence of the average voter?

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