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Thread: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the whole thing was a Republican idea?...what?
    Yes, it was a result of the GOP's refusal to raise the debt ceiling to pay our past bills.



    the DOD will spend more on the next budget than it did on the last budget... even with the "cuts" taking place

    the congressional definition of "cut" is different from ours.
    if they spend 5 bucks this year, and want to spend 10 bucks next year, they will consider it a "cut" to spend 7 bucks.
    When people get serious about wanting to address our debt, military cuts and eliminating tax cuts for the wealthy will have to play a large role. Until that point, the debt is not being taken as a serious problem.
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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMindSpeaker View Post
    i give them credit for at least making an attempt to hold them accountable. if memory serves correctly it was the republicans that wanted a balanced budget amendment to make sure they do their jobs and the democrats wouldnt agree to it

    A balanced budget amendment does not address the correct priorities. It does not touch the cause of most of the debt over the last 30 years, tax cuts for the rich, and spending almost as the rest of the world combined on the military.
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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A balanced budget amendment does not address the correct priorities. It does not touch the cause of most of the debt over the last 30 years, tax cuts for the rich, and spending almost as the rest of the world combined on the military.
    your right there are still many more problems too deal with, but by your logic we should just ignore them all unless we can solve all of them at the same time!
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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    Let the cuts commence as already agreed upon.

    Let the Bush 2001 & 03 tax cuts expire as scheduled.

    Congress can do what it does best to help these both - nothing.
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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    some/most of the cuts aren't actually cuts... they are decreases in budget growth.

    in other words, spending will still increase, just at a lower rate.
    That's the mad genius of it all. Fiscal restraint in Washington died a long time ago. All the politicians do is fiddle with some numbers, shift a little around, make largely baseless projections and call them cuts.
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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMindSpeaker View Post
    your right there are still many more problems too deal with, but by your logic we should just ignore them all unless we can solve all of them at the same time!
    No, I am saying address the cause of the debt over the last 30 years rather than throwing seniors under the bus.
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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    Congress agreed to the deficit reduction deal; Republicans need to live up to their claim of "government living within its means" and stop crying wolf over defense cuts.

    Will they be a tough pill to swallow? Yes! Absolutely! But just as our Defense Department made tough decisions and adjustments after Vietnam, so also will it adjust after Iraq and AfPak are done. Besides, if you allow the Bush tax cuts to expire particularly on the wealthiest Americans who themselves have been saying "tax me more - I can afford it," the Treasury will find ways to divert funds to DoD as necessary. They always have and they will continue to do so. Why? Because it's constitutionally mandated that Congress "provide for the common defense" of the nation.

    There's nothing to fear here, folks, except the rhetorical that somehow our nation will become defenseless with cuts to DoD. Got news for you...

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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    Any cuts are better than no cuts. Everything should be on the table for consideration.

    We should also include foreign aid cuts. Everyone starts at zero and has to justify the aid.
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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, I am saying address the cause of the debt over the last 30 years rather than throwing seniors under the bus.
    how is making congress do their job throwing seniors under the bus?
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    Re: Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

    I am all for INCREASING the Automatic Cuts to both Defense AND Social Spending. Then again, I'm also the person who wants to see EVERY SINGLE PENNY of unConstitutional spending done away with before the Government raises even another penny in revenue.

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