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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    No, anyone can say that for any part of the Constitution - the 1th, the 4th, all of the articles, all of it are the supreme law since no law can violate them.

    I'm disturbed that so many people voted no.
    Look and see how many "people" voted no. The poll should actually be reverse, it just got spammed by unregistered voters or people who logged out. (It's really 17-4 in favor of "Yes").
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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    So? Parents mutilating their children's genital would seem to be against "natural law", and yet it done without penalty, in accordance with the law of the country in some places.
    If you're talking about America and penile circumcision, you would be mistaken (see below).

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    "Natural Law" is a made up law subjective from person to person and non-binding on anyone, the Law is a made up law that is binding and enforced by society or government. The Law trumps "natural law".
    Natural law consists of what the general populace recognizes as innately right or wrong. Where the "Law" walks all over natural law, you will find that the "Law" loses its credibility and enforceability.
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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    No, anyone can say that for any part of the Constitution - the 1th, the 4th, all of the articles, all of it are the supreme law since no law can violate them.

    I'm disturbed that so many people voted no.
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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    No, anyone can say that for any part of the Constitution - the 1th, the 4th, all of the articles, all of it are the supreme law since no law can violate them.

    I'm disturbed that so many people voted no.
    The 14th amendment was the one designed to actually make the rest of the constitution supersede state law after the civil war. However, it has only been applied through court cases to portions of the constitution. Again, why some states have restrictive gun laws when the constitution says that the government cannot restrict the right to keep and bear arms. If the constitution was the supreme law superseding the states, then no states could have permit or conceal carry laws.
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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Natural law consists of what the general populace recognizes as innately right or wrong. Where the "Law" walks all over natural law, you will find that the "Law" loses its credibility and enforceability.
    Public opinion is not the supreme law of the land.
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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    The 14th amendment was the one designed to actually make the rest of the constitution supersede state law after the civil war. However, it has only been applied through court cases to portions of the constitution. Again, why some states have restrictive gun laws when the constitution says that the government cannot restrict the right to keep and bear arms. If the constitution was the supreme law superseding the states, then no states could have permit or conceal carry laws.
    That doesn't speak to the supremacy of the Constitution so much as it does that it's subject to interpretation.
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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    If you're talking about America and penile circumcision, you would be mistaken (see below).

    Natural law consists of what the general populace recognizes as innately right or wrong. Where the "Law" walks all over natural law, you will find that the "Law" loses its credibility and enforceability.
    There is no punishment for breaking natural law on its own and there is no direct requirement that human law must follow natural law (only that if human law does not follow natural law, bad **** happens). Also, natural law is subjective, since each person has their own ideas about morality - for instance, I would guess there are many who feel abortion goes against natural law.
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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    ...If the constitution was the supreme law superseding the states, then no states could have permit or conceal carry laws.
    your understanding of the Constitution and the Supreme Court is certainly lacking.

    it it is the responciblity of the SCOTUS to interprate the Constitution. And they have found that certain common-sense gun laws, such as preventing the mentally ill and felons from owning weapons, are within the intent of the 2nd Amendment.

    On a side note, I find it very troubling that LIBERALS are having to educate CONSERVATIVES, as to the true meaning & significance of the Constitution. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Why is it that Liberals are defending the supremacy of the Constitution while Conservatives are minimizing & denying it???

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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Public opinion is not the supreme law of the land.
    Elections are about public opinion -- natural law is about generally recognized taboos and imperatives.
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    Re: Is the US Constitution the Supreme Law of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That doesn't speak to the supremacy of the Constitution so much as it does that it's subject to interpretation.
    "Subject to interpretation" is how those in power change the law without bothering to get the votes necessary to actually change the law. There is nothing in the second amendment that would allow for conceal carry laws. It's pretty straight forward. But it is also a restriction on the Federal Government that should not be placed on the states, hence the tenth amendment.
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