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Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

  • Yes, they very much represent their complaints & agenda.

    Votes: 11 14.5%
  • They represent some of their complaints & agenda, but also have their own unique/radical ideas.

    Votes: 20 26.3%
  • Not really, their ideas are more represent the complaints & goals of the poor and radicals.

    Votes: 17 22.4%
  • Not at all! They only speak for a radical fringe!!

    Votes: 28 36.8%

  • Total voters
    76
  • Poll closed .
I want Free Edumucation!

I want the government to make banks forgive my debt!

I want enough money to live off of comfortably even though I don't have a job and don't produce or contribute to society at all!

Wahh Wahh Wahhh......




Did I miss anything?
 
I want Free Edumucation!

I want the government to make banks forgive my debt!

I want enough money to live off of comfortably even though I don't have a job and don't produce or contribute to society at all!

Wahh Wahh Wahhh......




Did I miss anything?


yes, the legitimate concerns of the occupy movement
 
which are?

um....1/3 of Americans living in poverty?

the increasing gap between rich & poor?

the fact that the banks got massive bail-outs but have not returned to pre-Recession lending?

the Bush tax-cuts on the wealthy?

the fact that corporations have record profits but still ain't hiring?

I can go on and on.
 
um....1/3 of Americans living in poverty?

define "poverty"

the increasing gap between rich & poor?


Which happens because?



the fact that the banks got massive bail-outs but have not returned to pre-Recession lending?


Is that the banks fault or the governments?


the Bush tax-cuts on the wealthy?

newspeak talking points. Take them away and nothing will change.


the fact that corporations have record profits but still ain't hiring?


Like whom?



I can go on and on.


Please do.


What's the solution?
 
define "poverty"

Which happens because?

Is that the banks fault or the governments?

newspeak talking points. Take them away and nothing will change.


Like whom?

Please do.

What's the solution?

remove the Bush tax-cuts for the wealthy and Federal revenue will increase.

demand the banks start lending more and maybe they will.

the govt. has specific barometers for measuring the poverty rate.
 
remove the Bush tax-cuts for the wealthy and Federal revenue will increase.


No where near enough, it wouldn't even register.


demand the banks start lending more and maybe they will.


Maybe when you give them our tarrp money, you put those conditions on it then., Your president failed.


the govt. has specific barometers for measuring the poverty rate.

Which are? I'd like to know what is considered poverty/.
 
No where near enough, it wouldn't even register.

Maybe when you give them our tarrp money, you put those conditions on it then., Your president failed.

Which are? I'd like to know what is considered poverty/.

Clinton increased Federal revenue by 75%, in part by raising taxes on the wealthy.

My President? He's your President too.
 
Clinton increased Federal revenue by 75%, in part by raising taxes on the wealthy.

The tech bubble didn't help?


How about we go back to clinton rates, on taxes, and spending? Deal?



My President? He's your President too.


funny, one would think the #ows crowd wouldn't claim him anymore.
 
what did you find within that list which you find the concerns of kooks


Let's do one at a time:


"They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage."


so if you lose your home because you over extended yourself on a mortgage, it is illegal because the bank sold your mortgage?

wait, what?


Give me your take on it. lol
 
Let's do one at a time:


"They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage."


so if you lose your home because you over extended yourself on a mortgage, it is illegal because the bank sold your mortgage?

wait, what?


Give me your take on it. lol
gladly
if the borrower defaulted on their mortgage then the mortgagee has the right to collect against whatever collateral it has securing such mortgage
the mortgage (or deed of trust) document will spell out the procedures to be followed to recover from the collateral
one of those provisions is the showing that the mortgagee has a legitimate claim to execute against the secured collateral
unfortunately for the lenders, when they acquired an assignment of interest in a mortgage, the underlying documents which evidence they have a legitimate claim in the loan and underlying collateral have often not been received
unfortunately for the borrower, the lenders have fabricated false documents to be used in the foreclosure process. illegitimate documents found legitimate in the courts, allowing the improper foreclosures to proceed
the mortgagees have perpetrated fraud upon the courts, and have gotten away with it, to the detriment of the public's perception of the courts dispensing true justice as well as to the home owners who have lost their homes thru fraud, ... and to the resulting unfair enrichment of the lenders
in my view, the Occupy movement is spot on in their intent to point out this unfairness which benefits corporate America to the detriment of the citizens of America
 
gladly
if the borrower defaulted on their mortgage then the mortgagee has the right to collect against whatever collateral it has securing such mortgage
the mortgage (or deed of trust) document will spell out the procedures to be followed to recover from the collateral
one of those provisions is the showing that the mortgagee has a legitimate claim to execute against the secured collateral
unfortunately for the lenders, when they acquired an assignment of interest in a mortgage, the underlying documents which evidence they have a legitimate claim in the loan and underlying collateral have often not been received
unfortunately for the borrower, the lenders have fabricated false documents to be used in the foreclosure process. illegitimate documents found legitimate in the courts, allowing the improper foreclosures to proceed
the mortgagees have perpetrated fraud upon the courts, and have gotten away with it, to the detriment of the public's perception of the courts dispensing true justice as well as to the home owners who have lost their homes thru fraud, ... and to the resulting unfair enrichment of the lenders
in my view, the Occupy movement is spot on in their intent to point out this unfairness which benefits corporate America to the detriment of the citizens of America


What are you talking about?


You own a house that you can't pay for, it's been a year, but the banks are doing something illegal getting the house back? what?
 
What are you talking about?


You own a house that you can't pay for, it's been a year, but the banks are doing something illegal getting the house back? what?

the mortgage is a contract
that says the mortgagee must demonstrate by its legal documents that it holds a genuine interest in the loan and underlying collateral
if the mortgagee does possess those legitimate documents then it should proceed thru the courts to recover from the collateral pledged to secure its loan
what it should not be entitled to do is fraudulently fabricate documents because it has failed to perform the acts of a prudent lender, such as possessing the necessary documents of hypothecation
or do you believe that corporate America should be allowed to continue to perpetrate fraud upon the courts and the citizens of America
 
the mortgage is a contract
that says the mortgagee must demonstrate by its legal documents that it holds a genuine interest in the loan and underlying collateral
if the mortgagee does possess those legitimate documents then it should proceed thru the courts to recover from the collateral pledged to secure its loan
what it should not be entitled to do is fraudulently fabricate documents because it has failed to perform the acts of a prudent lender, such as possessing the necessary documents of hypothecation
or do you believe that corporate America should be allowed to continue to perpetrate fraud upon the courts and the citizens of America


Sounds like a loophole so you can steal from the bank. I have to pay for my house, so should you.
 
"steal" from the bank?

that's ridiculous and you know it.



Bank lends you 2.1 mil for a home (or 90k in your case), you don't pay the bill, should you be able to default on your mortgage and keep your home?


That's stealing.
 
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