View Poll Results: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

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  • Yes, they very much represent their complaints & agenda.

    24 18.32%
  • They represent some of their complaints & agenda, but also have their own unique/radical ideas.

    30 22.90%
  • Not really, their ideas are more represent the complaints & goals of the poor and radicals.

    23 17.56%
  • Not at all! They only speak for a radical fringe!!

    54 41.22%
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I know there are many individual OWS movements around the country, but in general, do you believe that the OWS movement represents the grievances, complaints, & desires of the 99% of the USA?
    No. I'd imagine at best they largely represent about 33%, moderately to extremely mildly at best represent another 33%, and barely (if that) represent a third 33%.

    It'd be hard to honestly find ANYTHING opinion based in this country that 99% of people agree with.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    they mainly represent all that is wrong with america
    Actually, they are protesting against what is truly wrong with America. Power and deception and corruption at the top 1%. I think the 1% feels fear. Perhaps even you.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It all depends on the will of the people and how much pressure we apply next November. The biggest thing stopping progress is the GOP:


    The Democrats have already put up a bill to end tax breaks for outsourcing US jobs and the GOP voted it down.

    The Democrats have already put up a bill to reestablish the firewall between investment banking and commercial banking and the GOP voted it down.

    The Democrats have already put up jobs bill and the GOP has voted it down.

    The Democrats have already put up a bill to cut spending and increase revenues and the GOP voted it down.
    All meaningless posturing.

    Anyone can pander grandiosely when they know they're safe from ever having to worry about their grandiosity .. becoming law.

    Not that these measures were substantive ..

    .. As there are no "tax breaks for outsourcing US jobs", there are only tax breaks on foreign subsidiaries, and, considering the products made there may also be sold there and were never once staffed by Americans at home, that does not truly directly address outsourcing.

    And that banking firewall, pretty small potatoes, all foundational off-shoring things considered.

    The jobs bill was loaded with trade agreement off-shoring, which Obama in his last state of the union address made clear he favors, so such a bill, that would further implicate the government as employer, is really a detriment.

    And the so-called spending cuts ... don't get me started.

    None of these addressed the measures I previously listed that are necessary to reign in the rogue elephants of capitalism to keep them from trampling the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of the American small business owner and worker.

    We need truly courageous big-game hunter action now, not mere wingnut popguns fired at charging rhinos.

    The liberal Dems don't have what it takes .. and the rogue elephant-loving conservative Repubs obviously don't either.

    We need to find a non-wingnut political philosophy that does.

    And soon.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    I'll admit, I do support OWS a bit...but I also hate their arrogant claim to represent the 99%, especially when they seem to resent folks who have been successful in this world.

    Folks who own a nice house, two cars, and can send their kids to college..and not the enemy. Yet many OWSers seem to consider all such people as part of the 1%...and evil.

    Maybe OWS's should instead claim to represent the 50%.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I'll admit, I do support OWS a bit...but I also hate their arrogant claim to represent the 99%, especially when they seem to resent folks who have been successful in this world.

    Folks who own a nice house, two cars, and can send their kids to college..and not the enemy. Yet many OWSers seem to consider all such people as part of the 1%...and evil.

    Maybe OWS's should instead claim to represent the 50%.
    They could just claim to represent the perpetually unemployed....

    The employed look down upon them.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Please show me the documentation of anytime in the last half century, we had the concentration of wealth, income and power by the top income class as front page news with a majority of the country calling for tax increases for the wealthy?
    Well of course. If you have a bunch of pant****ters blocking people from going to work, sleeping in our streets, of course it's going to be front page news, but if anything it just shows how retarded this movement is. Imagine if the Tea Party occupied the entrances to our department of health and human services with signs stating: No more handouts, no more handouts, the whole world is watching. Anyone can be an occu-turd???
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    How are tax increases on the wealthy going to help the unemployed who would rather go camp out than keep working to find a job?
    Returning to some of the progressiveness that has been cut over the last 30 years, makes it easier on the middle class that are being forced into poverty at an alarming rate. Eliminating the tax breaks for companies for outsourcing jobs will have an immediate impact on jobs lost to overseas investment by greedy businesses.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Get back to me in three years and let me know what the OWS approval ratings are. You seem to forget that during its first year on the scene the Tea Party also had support of over a third of Americans: Link 1, Link 2, & Link 3. They were sitting at 41% approval rating in late December 2009, with more than four out of every 10 American's supporting them.

    After 3 years of trying to keep a movement going, negative media attention, and message burnout their approval ratings have fallen.

    OWS approval rating is good right now. Its also in its infancy in terms of exposure. Doesn't take away from their good numbers at the moment, but I'm not going to read any huge message into it since it was literally 2 years ago that an entirely different movement had the same if not better approval numbers. I will say Republicans should be glad this is happening a year out from the election rather than leading up to it, as it would provide a nice surge for Democrats. This far out though, and because OWS seems to be taking a "sprint" approach as to the Tea Parties "Marathon" approach, it's impact could be much different 6 to 8 months down the line.
    The OWS protesters have already increased public awareness in just 2 months. I fully expect the civilian protests in the US, and around the world, to continue until real change is made to address economic injustice.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    All meaningless posturing.

    Anyone can pander grandiosely when they know they're safe from ever having to worry about their grandiosity .. becoming law.

    Not that these measures were substantive ..

    .. As there are no "tax breaks for outsourcing US jobs", there are only tax breaks on foreign subsidiaries, and, considering the products made there may also be sold there and were never once staffed by Americans at home, that does not truly directly address outsourcing.

    And that banking firewall, pretty small potatoes, all foundational off-shoring things considered.

    The jobs bill was loaded with trade agreement off-shoring, which Obama in his last state of the union address made clear he favors, so such a bill, that would further implicate the government as employer, is really a detriment.

    And the so-called spending cuts ... don't get me started.

    None of these addressed the measures I previously listed that are necessary to reign in the rogue elephants of capitalism to keep them from trampling the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of the American small business owner and worker.

    We need truly courageous big-game hunter action now, not mere wingnut popguns fired at charging rhinos.

    The liberal Dems don't have what it takes .. and the rogue elephant-loving conservative Repubs obviously don't either.

    We need to find a non-wingnut political philosophy that does.

    And soon.
    These are real bills that Democrats put up to address our real problems and voted for with a majority of their party. That is what Congressmen do that represent the majority of the country.

    What bills have the Republicans put up to solve any of the nation's problems???
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Returning to some of the progressiveness that has been cut over the last 30 years, makes it easier on the middle class that are being forced into poverty at an alarming rate. Eliminating the tax breaks for companies for outsourcing jobs will have an immediate impact on jobs lost to overseas investment by greedy businesses.
    And what can a person do with "progressiveness" exactly?

    How can "progressiveness" benefit them?

    Please note, I stated those unemployed who would rather camp than go out and find jobs and get employed.

    Unemployed people pay nothing in income taxes........ so the tax rate of themselves and others does not affect them....
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
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