View Poll Results: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

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  • Yes, they very much represent their complaints & agenda.

    24 18.32%
  • They represent some of their complaints & agenda, but also have their own unique/radical ideas.

    30 22.90%
  • Not really, their ideas are more represent the complaints & goals of the poor and radicals.

    23 17.56%
  • Not at all! They only speak for a radical fringe!!

    54 41.22%
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    Martin Luther King Jr. would also support the protests; he would be standing alongside his fellow protestors and would also be a leading figure.
    How would you know?
    The thing I hate most are the claims "Reagan would have supported this", "the founders of the US would have done this". They are idiotic claims, supported by nothing except assumptions and delusions, and does little to support an argument.
    In addition, ideologies and thinking changes over time and in circumstances. There's no way how Luther would react after decades of political, social, and economic changes
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I don't speak for most of the anti-OWS crowd, but the reason why I oppose OWS is because of their despicable and hateful actions, and their carelessness and selfishness for the consequences of their actions, not for their message.
    If they had been peaceful but still had the same message, there wouldn't be the fights and brawls common in OWS movements and the US government and many would respect their right to speech.
    However, they have been very violent and made very many criminal acts, and made a huge despicable mess of themselves. That's why we oppose them.
    Besides, their message has merit, albeit that they suggest to the wrong cause and has the wrong solutions
    They have done many good things, too:
    After Feeding Thousands, OWS Sits Down in Liberty Square | OccupyWallSt.org

    I understand that there are many reasonable reactionary criticisms, but many of the less reasonable reactionaries will use pejoratives in order to convey their argument.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    They have done many good things, too:
    After Feeding Thousands, OWS Sits Down in Liberty Square | OccupyWallSt.org

    I understand that there are many reasonable reactionary criticisms, but many of the less reasonable reactionaries will use pejoratives as a means to convey their argument.
    There have been many bad things too, and many of their message (I mean the individuals)is disgusting.
    They shut down the Portland port, they assaulted police and bystanders without cause, they were caught doing indecent acts in public and exposing kids to drugs.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean
    They shut down the Portland port, they assaulted police and bystanders without cause, they were caught doing indecent acts in public and exposing kids to drugs.
    I wish that they wouldn't have done these things.

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    How would you know?
    I think that he probably would have. Dr. King was a notorious left-winger, having also been protesting the Vietnam War, among other things.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    I wish that they wouldn't have done these things.


    I think that he probably would have. Dr. King was a notorious left-winger, having also been protesting the Vietnam War, among other things.
    See post 441.
    Also, I agree with you on how OWS was wrong to do those things. The truly incredible thing is that some assholes justify that, sitting with their computer, living a posh life with no violence involved and never having experienced it, writing how violence should be justified
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Violence is the fault of every protest. It is inevitable.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    Violence is the fault of every protest. It is inevitable.
    It depends on how much violence was committed
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by dadman View Post
    Jim Jones . . . was a socialist / communist / atheist .. he would be proud of OWS
    Thomas Jefferson was a patriot who believed in country before personal greed.. he would be proud of the OWS.

    "If the American people ever allow private banks
    to control the issue of their money,
    first by inflation and then by deflation,
    the banks and corporations that will
    grow up around them (around the banks),
    will deprive the people of their property
    until their children will wake up homeless
    on the continent their fathers conquered."
    - Thomas Jefferson
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I don't speak for most of the anti-OWS crowd, but the reason why I oppose OWS is because of their despicable and hateful actions, and their carelessness and selfishness for the consequences of their actions, not for their message.
    If they had been peaceful but still had the same message, there wouldn't be the fights and brawls common in OWS movements and the US government and many would respect their right to speech.
    However, they have been very violent and made very many criminal acts, and made a huge despicable mess of themselves. That's why we oppose them.
    Besides, their message has merit, albeit that they suggest to the wrong cause and has the wrong solutions
    The OWS is one of the most peaceful in the world's history of mass protest. Have you not seen the rest of the protests happening around the world today???
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The OWS is one of the most peaceful in the world's history of mass protest. Have you not seen the rest of the protests happening around the world today???
    Most of the other countries with mass protests are protesting actual dictators and authoritarian regimes. They have become violent because the Government directly or indirectly killed many protesters. Comparing OWS to such international situations is dangerous for the occupy movement, since those other examples have or were or did over through their Government.

    Are you asserting then that the purpose of OWS is to overthrow the US Government? I assume that you are not, but do you see what I mean?

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