View Poll Results: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

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  • Yes, they very much represent their complaints & agenda.

    24 18.32%
  • They represent some of their complaints & agenda, but also have their own unique/radical ideas.

    30 22.90%
  • Not really, their ideas are more represent the complaints & goals of the poor and radicals.

    23 17.56%
  • Not at all! They only speak for a radical fringe!!

    54 41.22%
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    ...To think, that you don't believe you are obligated to pay your debts because the bank sold your lone. KOOKY....
    what's a "lone"?

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what does (90k in your case) mean? what are you trying to say?
    he is explaining that the folks in his community also have mortgages on their trailers
    but if the mobile home is not found to be real property instead of personal property, he would again be wrong
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think I said it. I am simply trying to cover all bases here so you can understand a basic principle.
    lame attempt at a personal attack, acknowledged.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what's a "lone"?
    A typo. Care to address ANY of the actual points or are you going to play grammar boy to hide your lack of ability to address the actual points.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    lame attempt at a personal attack, acknowledged.


    I'm sorry you took it that way. Please now by all means adress the actual point and stop dancing.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the bank should be able to recover from its secured collateral
    all it has to do is show that it has the required documents
    it does not get to fabricate what it needs to collect against the collateral. that is fraud


    how common is this paperwork loophole you keep talking about? Is it illegal? show me the law. Honestly unless you got something solid, I can't take your word for it.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    A typo. Care to address ANY of the actual points or are you going to play grammar boy to hide your lack of ability to address the actual points.
    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I'm sorry you took it that way. Please now by all means adress the actual point and stop dancing.
    OWS has valid grievances. That's the point. Of course, some folks prefer to delude themselves into thinking that by supporting & defending the uber-rich, somehow..someday...the uber-rich will reward them. Lenin had a term for such individuals.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    OWS has valid grievances. That's the point. Of course, some folks prefer to delude themselves into thinking that by supporting & defending the uber-rich, somehow..someday...the uber-rich will reward them. Lenin had a term for such individuals.

    The Good Reverend is obscenely rich. While not in the 1% I fall clearly within the "5%" perhaps even a bit higher. He has more than enough to keep him very, very, happy. Russel Simmons was my neighbor.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Because you owe them the ****ing money.
    but do you actually owe THEM money
    they say that they have a loan outstanding and in default, but the creditor must also show that they have the original Note and other documents of hypothecation proving their legitimate interest in the defaulted loan
    without the documentation proving that they have a genuine interest in the property, they have no legitimate claim to recover against the underlying collateral


    When you default, you make honest people like me pay more, wether it's through bailouts or higher rates.
    when you default, you are subject to lose your property pledged as collateral when the lender properly documents its legitimate interest in the defaulted loan
    it does not get to fraudulently fabricate documents showing such interest in the loan
    this is the kind of thing, corporate fraud legitimatized by the courts, that OWS is objecting to

    To think, that you don't believe you are obligated to pay your debts because the bank sold your loan. KOOKY.
    no one is saying that borrowers are not obligated to pay their their debts. what is being established is that the creditors also have an obligation to fulfill the provisions of the contract signed by the mortgagee and mortgagor. if they are unable to do so, then they have no legitimate claim to recover against the collateral securing the defaulted loan
    again, you expect the corporation not to have to fulfill its contractual obligation before the courts ... which is one of the things the Occupy movement has cited as a major concern

    Shall we move on to the next one? :
    since it is quite obvious you have lost this one, certainly
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but do you actually owe THEM money
    they say that they have a loan outstanding and in default, but the creditor must also show that they have the original Note and other documents of hypothecation proving their legitimate interest in the defaulted loan
    without the documentation proving that they have a genuine interest in the property, they have no legitimate claim to recover against the underlying collateral



    when you default, you are subject to lose your property pledged as collateral when the lender properly documents its legitimate interest in the defaulted loan
    it does not get to fraudulently fabricate documents showing such interest in the loan
    this is the kind of thing, corporate fraud legitimatized by the courts, that OWS is objecting to


    no one is saying that borrowers are not obligated to pay their their debts. what is being established is that the creditors also have an obligation to fulfill the provisions of the contract signed by the mortgagee and mortgagor. if they are unable to do so, then they have no legitimate claim to recover against the collateral securing the defaulted loan
    again, you expect the corporation not to have to fulfill its contractual obligation before the courts ... which is one of the things the Occupy movement has cited as a major concern


    since it is quite obvious you have lost this one, certainly


    You still have to pay for your home, your dog and pony show has failed. but you go on big boy, you claim victory.


    "They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses."


    I agree with this, but lets see where you put the blame. I bet it's as dumb as where they put it.
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