View Poll Results: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

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  • Yes, they very much represent their complaints & agenda.

    24 18.32%
  • They represent some of their complaints & agenda, but also have their own unique/radical ideas.

    30 22.90%
  • Not really, their ideas are more represent the complaints & goals of the poor and radicals.

    23 17.56%
  • Not at all! They only speak for a radical fringe!!

    54 41.22%
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom From al View Post
    OWS is ran by the NYC General Assembly.
    You failed to prove the OWS has the goal of doing away with capitalism. Got a quote???



    You failed to prove the OWS has the goal of doing away with capitalism. Got a quote???



    - Google Search

    Read some of the results from this search. There are many many conversations that OWS is having about how to end Capitalism.

    You failed to prove the OWS has the goal of doing away with capitalism. Got a quote???
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    This is all based on the assumption that they are going the correct route to fix these issues. If I said I wanted to protect your safety by locking you in a prison cell, do I get to say I'm serving your best interest? My intention is good...

    It also assumes they are right about the causes of these problems. I don't grant that, obviously. Look at my lean.

    I say that the premise is false for your final conclusion.
    Ah you are part of the 0.1% that votes Libertarian, that would explain why you think unregulated greed is a good thing. Carry on!
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Ah you are part of the 0.1% that votes Libertarian, that would explain why you think unregulated greed is a good thing. Carry on!
    as opposed to the government regulated and sponsored greed that you live by?

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Ah you are part of the 0.1% that votes Libertarian, that would explain why you think unregulated greed is a good thing. Carry on!
    Hmm... can we say ad hominem? Please address my statement instead of my lean. Also, note it is a lean, not a religion. There are some libertarian policies I disagree with.

    Edit: I might also add that some of the founders of libertarian philosophy felt, as I do, that regulation is necessary, but only in limited circumstances. Your strawman falls short.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%? When someone or some group claims to represent someone or a group, it is possible for people or groups to state that they do not want to be represented by that group or person. In fact it is our liberty to deny OWS their claim of representing us. We can go on until the cattle come home but it will not change the fact that many Americans do not relate with the premise that the Occupy movement represents.

    The Occupy movement speaks for themselves not everyone. So OWS should respect our voice and remove the 99% claim. "We are the 99%" claims unity among 99% of the country in support of what OWS is doing and saying, nothing could be more dishonest and offensive.
    Last edited by FreedomFromAll; 11-23-11 at 09:42 PM.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as opposed to the government regulated and sponsored greed that you live by?
    For the last 30 years it has been the unregulated greed of Reaganomics. Not surprising, the Gop is only offering more of the same. The 99% aren't buying it!
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    Hmm... can we say ad hominem? Please address my statement instead of my lean. Also, note it is a lean, not a religion. There are some libertarian policies I disagree with.

    Edit: I might also add that some of the founders of libertarian philosophy felt, as I do, that regulation is necessary, but only in limited circumstances. Your strawman falls short.
    Sorry, if we can't agree on these issues, we are never going to come to a meeting of minds:

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    Is your interest served by banks too big to fail, that require bailout with public tax dollars?

    Is you interest served by the outsourcing of American jobs?

    Is you interest served by high unemployment/large welfare roles?

    Is your interest served by having politicians sold to the highest anonymous bidder?
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sorry, if we can't agree on these issues, we are never going to come to a meeting of minds:

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    Is your interest served by banks too big to fail, that require bailout with public tax dollars?

    Is you interest served by the outsourcing of American jobs?

    Is you interest served by high unemployment/large welfare roles?

    Is your interest served by having politicians sold to the highest anonymous bidder?
    Is there part of you that thinks I will say yes to these questions? The problem is discussion of them is pointless and only lead to irrelevant discussion of who is to blame. Those subjects are discussed ad nauseum on these boards and we won't come to a meeting of minds. Since we won't be able to agree on the cause, we won't be able to agree on the solution.

    There is no way OWS or you can establish you are representing my best interests. Too many variables apply. Even if you could, by some miracle, establish it, you wouldn't be able to establish that it's in the full interest of 99% of the country. My needs are different than everyone else's.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    Is there part of you that thinks I will say yes to these questions?
    Nope, because I know you, like the rest of us, are part of the 99% represented by the goals of the OWS protesters.

    The problem is discussion of them is pointless and only lead to irrelevant discussion of who is to blame. Those subjects are discussed ad nauseum on these boards and we won't come to a meeting of minds. Since we won't be able to agree on the cause, we won't be able to agree on the solution.
    OK, you don't wish to discuss how the OWS represents us both.

    There is no way OWS or you can establish you are representing my best interests.
    Only through my vote, a very passive form of representation. The OWS protesters are the ones really putting themselves on the line in representing us.

    Too many variables apply. Even if you could, by some miracle, establish it, you wouldn't be able to establish that it's in the full interest of 99% of the country. My needs are different than everyone else's.
    How about this since you do not wish to discuss how the OWS represents you? You continue to believe whatever you like, and I will continue to believe that economic justice (not having most of the wealth, income, and power concentrated at the top) benefits us both.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nope, because I know you, like the rest of us, are part of the 99% represented by the goals of the OWS protesters.

    OK, you don't wish to discuss how the OWS represents us both.

    Only through my vote, a very passive form of representation. The OWS protesters are the ones really putting themselves on the line in representing us.

    How about this since you do not wish to discuss how the OWS represents you? You continue to believe whatever you like, and I will continue to believe that economic justice (not having most of the wealth, income, and power concentrated at the top) benefits us both.
    I don't wish to get drowned in details while you try to prove something that just won't end up proven. I'm fine with you walking away self-assured in your beliefs. I didn't post here thinking OWS (including you, even if you aren't physically there) was going to stop using the same tactic as politicians always do. I was just sharing a view point.
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