Yes, they very much represent their complaints & agenda.
They represent some of their complaints & agenda, but also have their own unique/radical ideas.
Not really, their ideas are more represent the complaints & goals of the poor and radicals.
Not at all! They only speak for a radical fringe!!
I don't think they are horrible people for claiming to speak for others, pick a news outlet, elected official, or a thousand other people. It's common. It irritates me when anyone claims to speak for me without my endorsement. In this particular case, recent polling shows (by interpretation) that many folks agree with me.
If I was going to mention things that upset me about OWS, this would be low on the list. It's not a huge list but I won't give it right now because it's largely been covered in previous posts.
Omniscience just sucks without omnipotence!
They represent the portion of the citizenry that agrees with them.
hell, Warren Buffett has advised us that we are being routed
when the bandwagon is the 99%The 99% ploy is called "Bandwagon appeal"
no bridge jumping going onThe 'occupy movement' is asking us to jump off a bridge just because they are.
i believe you are confused. it is among the tea party that one should expect to see the lemmings jump without thinking; doing as they have been told
the only parties initiating hostility appear to be law enforcement. OWS has been about passive resistanceBy trying to make the majority of the 'common folk' hostile towards the 'rich folk'.
and the reich wing media and those that follow it seem hostile about the OWS ... but that is likely because they don't have the mental firepower to grasp what it is about
for you to say that, then you must have proof that they actually do have an agenda that has not been disclosed. share your proof with us ... or are you just making this **** upMeanwhile the Occupiers purposely makes the appearance of having no real agenda.
that is interesting. how is it you are so certain that there are no participants with a right leanBut there are some facts about the Occupy movement: The movement is entirely from the Left.
so, this coming together to participate in peaceful protest is by non-aligned groups. but would it not seem that they are aligned if they have come together to participate together in the protestIs factional. There is not any agreement among those factions.
your presentation makes no sense. show us your proof about these disharmonious factions
now, you already asserted that the OWS participants - ALL of them - are from the left. so aren't you being redundant when you tell us that is the lean of the OWS participants who also serve in the General AssembliesThere is a large amount of far leftists among the General Assemblies.
again, interesting to knowThe General Assembly mechanism makes all of the decisions for the Occupy movement.
now share with us the evidence that shows your assertion to be correct
for me, it is difficult to imagine that every protesting participant is waiting around just waiting to be told what to do. especially when the participants are those protesting to preserve their individual rights as provided by the Constitution
but i will be opened minded about it and will give you the opportunity to show us that ALL OWS decisions are made by the members of the General Assemblies and that no other participants make individual decisions
maybe you will also tell us how the General Assembly members are chosen and who they are, recognizing you profess to have all this first hand insight about the OWS' internal operations
you are just a treasure trove of information. thank you in advance
now you are confusing me. admittedly, an easy thing to doAny action by the Occupy movement must be by consensus.
but you just got thru telling us that the General Assemblies made ALL the OWS decisions
now you are saying something quite different. you are now telling us that OWS decisions are made by consensus. so, which is it, consensus or General Assembly that drives the decision making
that does not make sense, eitherYou can only get that consensus through the General assemblies.
consensus indicates that all have provided their consent to a decision
but it also indicates that consensus can also be blocked by one (or a designated portion) of the participants participating in the decision making
so, explain for us the process used to establish consensus developed at the General Assemblies' level
but that is the opposite outcome than is expected when decisions are made by consensusThe general assembly is a small percentage of the Occupy movement. So the reality is that the General assembly is dictating to the majority of the followers of the Occupy movement.
the decision is not finalized until whatever degree of consent has been established as satisfactory has been attained
so, what you have done with your post is prompt a lot of questions, while you have offered - at least thus far - very few answers
That was then, this is now. Who caused this recession? The very worst since the Great Depression - some say even worse than that and more to come? The 1% of course, or maybe more accurately the 0.1% who have been quietly making society more unequal since the 1980's recession.
The Occupy movement concerns this. That is what it is about. Now you do not need to agree with them. Indeed they seem to be the most democratic people I have heard for quite some time, but like it or not, if you are in the 99% then they are also speaking about you.
You may stay where you are. That is your right. I don't even know that much about them but I am very glad to at last see some people willing to make a stand.
They are talking about 'Turning a Global Crises into a Global Opportunity'. Assuming the Movement grows, it is going to attract lots of different people. The best ideas will be picked up and it could indeed move towards Global change but that will be because people want it. They are just opening the conversation.
So here is a start Robin Hood Tax | Robin Hood Tax
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