View Poll Results: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

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  • Yes, they very much represent their complaints & agenda.

    24 18.32%
  • They represent some of their complaints & agenda, but also have their own unique/radical ideas.

    30 22.90%
  • Not really, their ideas are more represent the complaints & goals of the poor and radicals.

    23 17.56%
  • Not at all! They only speak for a radical fringe!!

    54 41.22%
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom From al View Post
    Not the same concept at all. Occupy Oakland clearly expresses their intent, while Bush straight up lied.
    The Bush lie could only have been pulled off if some people, mostly conservative, had not been so fearful of intent without threat.

    We know before hand since Occupy Oakland has told us, that they are going to commit a crime on December 12th.
    We communicated before hand that we were going to block the main entrance to Wright Patterson AFB during the Vietnam war protest. What's your point? They are calling for non-violent civil disobedience, of which there is a rich history of in the US. Get a grip
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah. somehow, i tend to suspect that hurling bottles, rocks, molotov cocktails, smashing storefronts, and charging police lines falls under the definition of both "violence" and "resisting arrest".
    A handful at most out of tens of thousands? Look at the soldiers actions at Abu Ghraib and in Afghanistan. Would you condemn all soldiers because of the actions of a few?


    no, the longshoremen did.
    That's what I said, it was not the OWS protesters.


    the Republican Congress? Republicans own the house, and they have owned it for all of ten months of this administration.
    And since the Republicans began blocking progress in 2010, Congress approval rating has dropped from 25% to 9%.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    According to TIME:

    the 1% = Average Yearly Income $1, 530, 773.
    the 99% = Average Yearly Income $54, 792.

    In light of this, I would think the OWS do represent the 99%.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    According to TIME:

    the 1% = Average Yearly Income $1, 530, 773.
    the 99% = Average Yearly Income $54, 792.

    In light of this, I would think the OWS do represent the 99%.
    My income falls below the 1% and they sure don't represent my views.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    My income falls below the 1% and they sure don't represent my views.
    According to TIME that makes you apart of the 99%, in terms of income. You aren't required to agree with them.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    According to TIME that makes you apart of the 99%, in terms of income. You aren't required to agree with them.
    I think you read that wrong and would like to give you a chance to rebut again. I fall below, not within, the 1%.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    I think you read that wrong and would like to give you a chance to rebut again. I fall below, not within, the 1%.
    I edited it after you quoted my response, and saved it before you posted your response.

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I edited it after you quoted my response, and saved it before you posted your response.
    Hehe ... we'll move forward, then.

    Just because they fall within the income of the 99% and make the claim doesn't actually make them the representatives of the 99%. If a bunch of prison inmates suddenly decided to call themselves the 99%, would they be the new representatives? They fall in the income range...

    Roughly a third and falling percent supports them. Maybe they represent the 33%. They make up less than 1% of the population, maybe they are the 1%...

    If they were elected by 99% of the people to speak for them or held a true 99% following, I would buy that phrase. Otherwise, I'm not a fan of them claiming to speak for me.
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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    Just because they fall within the income of the 99% and make the claim doesn't actually make them the representatives of the 99%. If a bunch of prison inmates suddenly decided to call themselves the 99%, would they be the new representatives? They fall in the income range...

    Roughly a third and falling percent supports them. Maybe they represent the 33%. They make up less than 1% of the population, maybe they are the 1%...

    If they were elected by 99% of the people to speak for them or held a true 99% following, I would buy that phrase. Otherwise, I'm not a fan of them claiming to speak for me.
    Well, they are the ones who have tried to represent the 99%. Though, your first sentence is understandable. Prison inmates don't have credibility, unlike disillusioned citizens.

    Interesting. TIMES shows that there were European protesters who showed solidarity with the OWS. Though, I think when it comes to OWS matters, the percentages refer to citizens of America---not the whole world.

    It is true they claim to represent the 99%, and that the 99% are people who make an average yearly income of $54,792. It's also understandable that there are lower class people who would support the high class..

    Right now, I'm checking the arguments of others, as in yours and TIME's.

    Do you think it would be wise to take TIME magazine with a couple shakes of salt?

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    Re: Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    My income falls below the 1% and they sure don't represent my views.
    The point is that they represent your interests.
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