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    Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    Okay, I'm going to take on the job of asshole and ask this question.

    Should we have an amendment to the Constitution regarding Representatives and Senators who are unable to discharge their powers and duties so that another person may have their seat and represent their constituents?

    The reason why I ask is because of Gabrielle Giffords. She's the Representative of Arizona's 8th district. Since assuming her 3rd term on January 3 of 2011, she has missed 98% of the votes in Congress. This is, of course, because she was shot on January 8 of 2011.

    Now I absolutely commend her for her struggles in recovering from that shooting, and do not in any way seek to take away from that. Also, I wish her nothing but the best in her recovery. I will also be the first to praise her and her husband for their bravery in dealing with this tragedy that struck them.

    Even so, Arizona's 8th district is being unrepresented in Congress. And that really doesn't sit well with me.

    We have the 25th Amendment to deal with Presidential succession and disability in order to officially clear the matter. However, we have no manner to deal with Representatives and Senators who are unable to discharge their duties. And I think that their duties are equally as important as those of the President.

    So should we have an amendment that provides for procedures to replace an elected Representative or Senator who is unable to do his or her duty in Congress?
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    Re: Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Okay, I'm going to take on the job of asshole and ask this question.

    Should we have an amendment to the Constitution regarding Representatives and Senators who are unable to discharge their powers and duties so that another person may have their seat and represent their constituents?

    The reason why I ask is because of Gabrielle Giffords. She's the Representative of Arizona's 8th district. Since assuming her 3rd term on January 3 of 2011, she has missed 98% of the votes in Congress. This is, of course, because she was shot on January 8 of 2011.

    Now I absolutely commend her for her struggles in recovering from that shooting, and do not in any way seek to take away from that. Also, I wish her nothing but the best in her recovery. I will also be the first to praise her and her husband for their bravery in dealing with this tragedy that struck them.

    Even so, Arizona's 8th district is being unrepresented in Congress.
    And that really doesn't sit well with me.

    We have the 25th Amendment to deal with Presidential succession and disability in order to officially clear the matter. However, we have no manner to deal with Representatives and Senators who are unable to discharge their duties. And I think that their duties are equally as important as those of the President.

    So should we have an amendment that provides for procedures to replace an elected Representative or Senator who is unable to do his or her duty in Congress?
    I commend you for having the courage to bring this up. I agree with your statements. I feel for her as well, and wish her a good recovery. She and her husband are remarkable and resilient people.

    But, the part I highlighted in red is too important to ignore. They're not pleasant questions, but they need to be asked nonetheless. Who is representing those people? Where do they go when they need a Representative for something? When will she be back? (Nobody knows) If she does get back, will she still be able to do her job effectively? (Nobody knows that, either)

    As far as an amendment goes, I'd have to see some text or ideas before I could say.

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    Re: Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    Why does each poster feel the need to praise Gifford? Because our PC world will label you heartless because you're bringing up an issue that may appear cold to the current office holder? Who here thinks the people in her district should go without representation so that we can make Mrs Gifford feel better about herself? Who here believes that Mrs Gifford would approve? If you believe Gifford would approve then you also think that Gifford is selfish.

    We don't need an amendment because the matter can be handled by the state.
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    Re: Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why does each poster feel the need to praise Gifford? Because our PC world will label you heartless because you're bringing up an issue that may appear cold to the current office holder? Who here thinks the people in her district should go without representation so that we can make Mrs Gifford feel better about herself? Who here believes that Mrs Gifford would approve? If you believe Gifford would approve then you also think that Gifford is selfish.

    We don't need an amendment because the matter can be handled by the state.
    I agree. It's a state issue.
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    Re: Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    The only reason why it feels unpleasant is because of the circumstances behind her situation. But tragedies could strike at any time. I have a will *just in case* which addresses who will take care of the kids if I die or am otherwise unable. People have insurance *just in case* . . . and so on. And in many companies in your contract there's a clause that addresses exactly what to do if you're 'unable to perform your duties'

    Nothing wrong with seeking out fair representation when one cannot be there to do so.

    I'm surprised that this hasn't already been addressed.
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    Re: Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    Her constituents deserve representation in Congress, and they have chosen for her to represent them. She should appoint a proxy until her term ends or until she is capable of resuming office, whichever comes first.

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    Re: Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Her constituents deserve representation in Congress, and they have chosen for her to represent them. She should appoint a proxy until her term ends or until she is capable of resuming office, whichever comes first.
    Well - wouldn't that be a state's issue anyway?
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    Re: Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post

    So should we have an amendment that provides for procedures to replace an elected Representative or Senator who is unable to do his or her duty in Congress?
    I say yes.Serving in political office should be seen as a privilege, not a right.The people's right to representation far outweighs an elected official's desire to hang onto their job.
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    Re: Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - wouldn't that be a state's issue anyway?
    The right to Congressional reputation is a Constitutional guarantee. But I am not particularly concerned with it, since it is such an unusual occurrence.

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    Re: Should we have a congressional disability amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Okay, I'm going to take on the job of asshole and ask this question.

    Should we have an amendment to the Constitution regarding Representatives and Senators who are unable to discharge their powers and duties so that another person may have their seat and represent their constituents?

    The reason why I ask is because of Gabrielle Giffords. She's the Representative of Arizona's 8th district. Since assuming her 3rd term on January 3 of 2011, she has missed 98% of the votes in Congress. This is, of course, because she was shot on January 8 of 2011.

    Now I absolutely commend her for her struggles in recovering from that shooting, and do not in any way seek to take away from that. Also, I wish her nothing but the best in her recovery. I will also be the first to praise her and her husband for their bravery in dealing with this tragedy that struck them.

    Even so, Arizona's 8th district is being unrepresented in Congress. And that really doesn't sit well with me.

    We have the 25th Amendment to deal with Presidential succession and disability in order to officially clear the matter. However, we have no manner to deal with Representatives and Senators who are unable to discharge their duties. And I think that their duties are equally as important as those of the President.

    So should we have an amendment that provides for procedures to replace an elected Representative or Senator who is unable to do his or her duty in Congress?
    Excellent point. Amendment....whatever it takes. No district should be without representation for very long at all. Hope you're complaining if it's your district. I would be... It would be even more crucial in the Senate.
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