View Poll Results: Have the ruined Christmas?

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  • Yes the spirt of the holiday has been lost

    38 50.67%
  • No I like the materialistic side of xmas and its good for the economy

    22 29.33%
  • Not really bothered either way its just another day off for me

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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't know.
    Christmas is the same thing that it was when I was little. I just don't drag my kids to church.
    Even still from what I gather from your posts your not the kind of Mother who would allow your kids to hold you at ransom over gifts. I hear a lot of I want and I need where as for me it was thank you and surprise.
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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    All business lost that fourth weekend between Thanks--giving and Christ--mas this year so they're worried..
    We'll hopefully see more discussion on TV about "small business Saturday" and "cyber-Monday"..
    Thanksgiving and Hanukkah will not be on the same day again for 70,000 years .
    Personally....I'm just tired of it all....and I'm no Grinch. I LOVE gettting up early on Black Friday and going out....even if I don't buy that much....I just love the Holiday Season. But when you start it on Thanksgiving.....it forces people to give up their Thanksgiving to work, even though most of them would rather be with their families. It diminishes Thanksgiving......all so that the corporate entities can pad their pocketbooks more. So...at least for me.....this year, my business will go only to those who are closed on Thanksgiving. I normally shop Macy's, Toys R Us, KMart, Target.....but not this year. I will shop Nordstrom, Costco...and any other stores that I find were closed on Thanksgiving. Enough is enough.
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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    One of things that's been prevelant in our local news and has generated a good deal of excitement is a new series of shops (not exactly a mall, it's outdoors, but I don't what to call it). I went driving through it the other day and it's nice but it struck me how so much of what we consider entertainment is buying things. I'm as capitalist and pro business/profit as anyone but I have been thinking, lately, that there has to be other maybe even better ways to enjoy yourself than accumulating stuff.

    Sorry, that's not really on topic. I've just been kind of contemplative lately.
    No, you're right on point. Our culture thrives on materialism because it has created a more comfortable and prosperous existence overall but like anything good it comes with a negative side. When I was younger we put more emphasis on endeavors of quality, depth and class. Our society is becoming lost in the pop culture of shallow achievements and wealth as an ends to a means.

    Christmas was like a Norman Rockwell painting full of magic when I was a kid but so were a lot of things. I try to roll with the changes and adapt. Put as much as a positive spin as I can on things, especially since we can't change it.

    Like smart phones. I hate them because they seem like faddish, immature, over costly nuisances of distraction. But I can possibly see them becoming more useful tools of technology in the near future with me eventually succumbing. You got to take the good with the bad.
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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Personally....I'm just tired of it all....and I'm no Grinch. I LOVE gettting up early on Black Friday and going out....even if I don't buy that much....I just love the Holiday Season. But when you start it on Thanksgiving.....it forces people to give up their Thanksgiving to work, even though most of them would rather be with their families. It diminishes Thanksgiving......all so that the corporate entities can pad their pocketbooks more. So...at least for me.....this year, my business will go only to those who are closed on Thanksgiving. I normally shop Macy's, Toys R Us, KMart, Target.....but not this year. I will shop Nordstrom, Costco...and any other stores that I find were closed on Thanksgiving. Enough is enough.
    Is Disneyland/Disneyworld open on Thanksgiving?

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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Is Disneyland/Disneyworld open on Thanksgiving?
    Actually it is......and I wish it weren't as well. I've never gone to Disneyland on Thanksgiving or Christmas. There should be at least a day or two a year that people can accept that things are closed.
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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think the left has destroyed the real meaning of Christmas and that is very sad.
    LOL....oh yes...NP....it is the "left" that is supporting Corporate America to pad their pocketbooks as much as possible. Do you actually believe half of the stuff that you post?
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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Even still from what I gather from your posts your not the kind of Mother who would allow your kids to hold you at ransom over gifts. I hear a lot of I want and I need where as for me it was thank you and surprise.
    Indeed.
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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Though my Christmas was more like the movies "Home Alone" or "Christmas Vacation" in setting and timeline the movie "A Christmas Story" with Darrin McGavin, always makes me feel like it's the way Christmas should be. And Charlie Brown's peanuts characters with that theme song.

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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The reality is.....given the choice, most people who most likely prefer to shop on Friday, rather than Thanksgiving....but they WILL shop on Thanksgiving because the corporate world has moved the sales from Black Friday to Thanksgiving. Given the choice....most workers would prefer not to have to work on Thanksgiving, but if they want their job, they now have to. Sorry....whether you like it or not....it IS corporate greed that is driving this.
    People HAVE the choice. Now...given the choice, a good number of people eat turkey then go to the movies. They get on with their lives. And heres an even bigger shocker for you...a good number of those people LIKE to go shopping together, just as a good number of them like to pass out on the couch or sit back and watch football games. The stores are open because people WANT them to be open. You are laughable with your constant eeeeeeevil corporations bull****.

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    Re: Has commercialism ruined Christmas?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    People HAVE the choice. Now...given the choice, a good number of people eat turkey then go to the movies. They get on with their lives. And heres an even bigger shocker for you...a good number of those people LIKE to go shopping together, just as a good number of them like to pass out on the couch or sit back and watch football games. The stores are open because people WANT them to be open. You are laughable with your constant eeeeeeevil corporations bull****.
    The workers DON'T have a choice....if they want to keep their jobs. Sorry....but it IS the quest for the almighty dollar by these companies....the greed that is destroying our national customs. I'm sure soon they will start the "After-Christmas" sales on Christmas eve and stay open 72 hours. I do LOVE the fact that watching the news this morning...they were outside KMart and there were only about 10 people in line. I think this is going to come back and bite these companies square in the ass.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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