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Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?


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The Confederate Flag is simply a symbol of the South... of Dixie. It is about being proud of that fact.

Don't make more of it is than it actually is... we have enough real problems in the world without manufacturing them.
Oh I see, so only Southerners can have a valid opinion of the Confederate Flag. I think not.

It's a symbol of treason, slavery and racism in addition to a symbol of people's history, states' rights and whatever else.
 
Oh I see, so only Southerners can have a valid opinion of the Confederate Flag. I think not.

It's a symbol of treason, slavery and racism in addition to a symbol of people's history, states' rights and whatever else.

No one is saying that, but it would be a huge breath of fresh air for you to have an informed opinion.

Thirteen hundred posts in this thread and the, "ya'll all be racists", crowd still hasn't posted a single source of documentation to support their point of view.

And, no matter what Haymarket thinks, YahooAnswers isn't a source. :lamo
 
No one is saying that, but it would be a huge breath of fresh air for you to have an informed opinion.
I do have an informed an opinion. Sorry that my information doesn't come from revisionist textbooks. :shrug:
 
I do have an informed an opinion. Sorry that my information doesn't come from revisionist textbooks. :shrug:

I would love to see where you information does come from, because so far, you haven't shown us.
 
I would love to see where you information does come from, because so far, you haven't shown us.
I've actually spent the majority of this thread posting information exclusively from primary sources including 3-4 Supreme Court rulings, statements/proclamations from presidents and Supreme Court Justices, certain Statements of Secession, the Constitution and various sources from the Civil War era. If you would love to see my information all you have to do is search my posts to this thread and all you'll find is primary sources. Perhaps you should really just start paying attention since that's pretty much all I've posted.
 
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I've actually spent the majority of this thread posting information exclusively from primary sources including 3-4 Supreme Court rulings, statements/proclamations from presidents, the Constitution and various sources from the Civil War era. If you would love to see my information all you have to do is search my posts to this thread and all you'll find is primary sources. Perhaps you should really just start paying attention.

Bro! You haven't posted a single piece of primary source documentation that supports your point. Hell, you haven't posted any primary source documentation, at all. I would be surprised as hell to find out that you even know what primary source documentation is.

So, get on with posting your links.
 
Here's the deal. A symbol can be different for different people.

The flag most certainly has meant racism, treason, slavery etc. to people in history - both in the Civil War era and more recent times. One can consider a symbol of something else, if you want. But it's been hijacked by the racists (much like the Nazis hijacked the swastika) and now you use it at your peril. A new symbol might be a good idea.
 
Here's the deal. A symbol can be different for different people.

The flag most certainly has meant racism, treason, slavery etc. to people in history - both in the Civil War era and more recent times. One can consider a symbol of something else, if you want. But it's been hijacked by the racists (much like the Nazis hijacked the swastika) and now you use it at your peril. A new symbol might be a good idea.
I say no to finding a new symbol and to explain that. The PC crowd which lives under perpetual offense likes to designate what can and cannot be expressed in "polite company" they've decided what my culture means. I would rather have people give me a dirty look than give those pieces of trash one more victory. The racists most certainly have flown Dixie in less than noble fashion, I would rather kick them down the stairs than give them the power to take over and bastardize the meaning of my heritage. To accomplish both I say fly the flag with honor and dignity and tell those who don't or won't get it to find another hobby.
 
I say no to finding a new symbol and to explain that. The PC crowd which lives under perpetual offense likes to designate what can and cannot be expressed in "polite company" they've decided what my culture means. I would rather have people give me a dirty look than give those pieces of trash one more victory. The racists most certainly have flown Dixie in less than noble fashion, I would rather kick them down the stairs than give them the power to take over and bastardize the meaning of my heritage. To accomplish both I say fly the flag with honor and dignity and tell those who don't or won't get it to find another hobby.

Goddamn! That's a great post!
 
Bro! You haven't posted a single piece of primary source documentation that supports your point. Hell, you haven't posted any primary source documentation, at all. I would be surprised as hell to find out that you even know what primary source documentation is.

So, get on with posting your links.
So you didn't search my posts. Thank you for wasting my time.
 
I still want to hear from the Episcopals on the board. So far, none have stepped forward. I find it hard to believe that there aren't any.
 
Here's the deal. A symbol can be different for different people.

The flag most certainly has meant racism, treason, slavery etc. to people in history - both in the Civil War era and more recent times. One can consider a symbol of something else, if you want. But it's been hijacked by the racists (much like the Nazis hijacked the swastika) and now you use it at your peril. A new symbol might be a good idea.
Meh, let them keep their symbol. I like to know who the ignorant people are.
 
I still want to hear from the Episcopals on the board. So far, none have stepped forward. I find it hard to believe that there aren't any.
Why? I'm technically Episcopal. What the hell do Episcopalians have to do with this thread?
 
Why? I'm technically Episcopal. What the hell do Episcopalians have to do with this thread?

Are you aware of the Confederate symbolism on the Episcopal logo? Just wondering.
 
Ever hear of the St. Andrews Cross? Leonidas Polk ring a bell?

Didn't think so.

St. Andrews's Cross is a uniquely Confederate symbol?

btw, the Polk Flag used St. Georges cross, not St. Andrew's.
 
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I'd love to see evidence for this. Looks like its just the cross of St. Andrew, a common symbol among Christiandom.

Never took a close look at the battle flag. Have you?

Didn't think so.

Thanks for playing.
 
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And, no matter what Haymarket thinks, YahooAnswers isn't a source.

What is it you are talking about? :doh
 
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Ever hear of the St. Andrews Cross? Leonidas Polk ring a bell?

Didn't think so.
St. Andrews Cross - yes. And?

Leonidas Polk - nope. But I just looked him and I'm unmoved. What's your point?
 
I do have an informed an opinion. Sorry that my information doesn't come from revisionist textbooks. :shrug:

or from convicted first degree murders serving a life sentence in an Indiana prison publishing his ravings on a white supremacist site. apdst likes those. ;):lamo
 
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St. Andrews's Cross is a uniquely Confederate symbol?
I hope that's now what he's trying to say since that is a blatantly false and ridiculous statement, particularly as it pertains to the Episcopal Flag(s).
 
Meh, let them keep their symbol. I like to know who the ignorant people are.
The only ignorance I've seen is the pro-north/Anti-Confederate Flag side, which got handily schooled BTW.
 
or from convicted first degree murders serving a life sentence in an Indiana prison publishing his ravings on a white supremacist site. apdst likes those.

At least I came up with a source a hell of a lot better than YahooAnswers. :lamo

And, you got all kinds of paper hanging on the wall, too. :lamo

Looked into getting your money back, yet?
 
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