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So you want to stick to that line of thinking? Fine, but it's been presented that slavery was one of many issues unresolved by the north, fortunately there are people in this country that ask question beyond eight grade history and learn about more things than "South bad, North good". You want to feel good about the outcome of the war, go ahead. Minus slavery ending the Union gained more power than it was ever supposed to have and we are still paying the bill for that to this day(Not talking money, talking about the cost of liberty so don't try finding economic data). You think you're being funny but every single time a new abusive federal program is introduced you can thank the north for getting the ball rolling, that isn't an opinion, the north wanted to expand central powers and THAT IS A FACT.
Still fighting the Civil War, are we? Trying to take our eye off the ball that the South fought it to defend a racist institution, are we? I gotta give you revisionists credit, you sure have a lot of tenacity.
Most of your other comments are a complete red herring. Unlike you, I'm grateful that the Union won. No, I won't even call it that. I'm grateful that AMERICA won. It's a real shame that some Americans choose to keep rooting for the losers.
Furthermore, your comment that the Union winning the war cost us liberty is a subtle racist comment. Blacks won freedom from slavery BECAUSE the Civil War rooted out. And it was the South who, in the days following, passed the Grandfather Clause, Jim Crow laws, etc. The North didn't have nearly as many of these problems. But hey, I guess the South had liberty instead--as long as you were White!
If you mean the south left the Union and the Union occupied southern land with a miliatary presence that was unwelcome and the south took exception to that and some northerners got starved and shot for being occupying assholes. Sure, why not.
Reconstruction was a failure because it did not go nearly far enough. Just as we reeducated Germans to break their nationalistic spine after WWII, we should have broken the pro-Confederate, anti-American spine of the South after the Civil War. Had we done that, we wouldn't be having stupid discussions such as these.
Yawn. Who took the first agressive action? The north did, sorry to burst your bubble on that. LOL! Now THAT is revision. The south wasn't even in the U.S. at the time slavery was founded. If you can't even get that one right how can we even take you seriously?
What aggressive action? Feeding men who were under a medieval-style siege, you call that aggression? Nah, aggression was the formation of a bastard government that took over a huge chunk of America. Now THAT'S a government takeover if I ever heard of one.
moe importantly, Ft. Sumter was govt. property, owned by the United States.
apologists for the CSA can't claim the war was about property rights, and then disregard the property rights of the USA.
omg, I didn't even think of it that way. Which means that the siege of Ft. Sumter was nothing short of an act of terrorism.