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Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

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dumbasdirt said:
The way I see what you are saying is that anyone who fights against the American government is a traitor, so you think MLK was a traitor, the Black Panthers are traitors?
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Um, no that's not what I'm saying. Let me re-post one of my earlier comments in order to respond to this faulty logic.

theplaydrive said:
It's different because OWS and the Tea Party (who used the DTOM flag) [and MLK and the Black Panthers] want to improve the United States, not abandon it.
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I see the Rebel flag as being no different than the Nazi flag.

They all are wrapped up in bigotry and hatred.
 
99percenter said:
Seems like that's what a lot of the hicks here think.
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So that's what it boils down to huh? Lemme clue you in, many of the "hicks" in "fly over country" have more class than some of the northerners who like to use those words, many have college degrees from better Universities, and this "hick" here has a high IQ and knows more about issues than a lot of "Yankees". So let's drop the pretentious jackassery.
 
LaMidRighter said:
So that's what it boils down to huh? Lemme clue you in, many of the "hicks" in "fly over country" have more class than some of the northerners who like to use those words, many have college degrees from better Universities, and this "hick" here has a high IQ and knows more about issues than a lot of "Yankees". So let's drop the pretentious jackassery.
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Dude, he's just trolling you.
 
99percenter said:
So fighting for civil rights is the same thing as treason? OKay.
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There was no treason, that's why it was a secession movement. The fact is that minus slavery the south was closer to the founders intent than the north was leading up to the civil war. MLK fought for equal treatment in all dealings within the United States borders, so did the southern states to an extent. Not my fault you can't understand that.
 
LaMidRighter said:
There was no treason, that's why it was a secession movement. The fact is that minus slavery the south was closer to the founders intent than the north was leading up to the civil war. MLK fought for equal treatment in all dealings within the United States borders, so did the southern states to an extent. Not my fault you can't understand that.
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The comparison is a false one. MLK fought for changing the union. The Confederacy left the union to form another one. If you don't acknowledge that difference, then you aren't acknowledging the actual arguments being made in this post.
 
friday said:
I don't fly the confederate flag, but it is a symbol of rebellion. How is that different than OWS, the Don't Tread On Me flag, etc? I think most people's objections are the racial connotations, but that is more of a cultural thing. I've found that northerners consider it racist while southerners consider it to be more of a rebellion symbol against large central (northern) government. The American flag is a flag of rebellion and personal freedom as well.
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really? you think balck southerners consider it a symbol of rebellion?
 
Thunder said:
if they are intelligent, they know exactly what the Rebel flag symbolizes: their oppression.
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exactly. pretty amazing someone makes a claim about southerners without including the largest population of blacks in the country.
 
Thunder said:
how many black families in the South have a rebel flag on their lawn?
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theplaydrive said:
The comparison is a false one. MLK fought for changing the union. The Confederacy left the union to form another one. If you don't acknowledge that difference, then you aren't acknowledging the actual arguments being made in this post.
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Ah, but the Confederacy didn't immediately leave, they had fought since the early 1800's for the Union to uphold it's constitutional duties in protecting equal trade amongst the states and fair application of tax law and other protections as part of the compact. The last option was to leave which the CSA did with heavy hearts. It's not as if the south just on a whim said "**** it, I'm done" there were detailed abuses from many decades prior. I'm also not saying the civil rights movement was exactly similar to the secession movement but some basic common values were shared.
 
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