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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that's nine people.
    Your right...

    Nine pictures came up with on the internets.... and there are more... Im just not going to create an entire new thread just for pictures of blacks with flags to fulfill whatever quota you secretly required when you asked that idiotic question.
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    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I see we've gone back to the "all Southerners think alike and you non-Southerners just don't understand us" part of the program?
    No, just saying that not everyone who is black happens to think like every other black. Also stating that many southern blacks do appreciate some parts of our southern heritage. Besides, it was an anti-flag poster who brought up what black southerners think of the flag........not our side's fault on that one.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    The Vice-President of the Confederacy said seccession was about white-supremacy and the natural state of black people, being enslaved.

    Why do people deny the clear connection between the CSA and racism?

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Confederacy threatened to enslave black Northern POWs.

    Clearly, the only black Southerners who like this flag, are truly ignorant of the past.

    Nevermind the clear racism inherient in the South's secession.

    from the Cornerstone Speech, given by the Vice-President of the Confederate States of America:

    Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition.

    Cornerstone Speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Historical Context you!!!

    Everyone was racist back then.

    One could even say that they were moreso racist in the north.....where they didn't see many blacks....and their children didn't grow up with them and call them Aunt and Uncle.

    from Sherman (Union General)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman
    "We do not like the negroes. We do not disguise our dislike. As my friend from Indiana [a Mr. Write] said yesterday: "The whole people of the Northwestern States are opposed to having many negroes among them and that principal or prejudice has been engraved in the legislation for nearly all the Northwestern States."
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Vice-President of the Confederacy said seccession was about white-supremacy and the natural state of black people, being enslaved.

    Why do people deny the clear connection between the CSA and racism?
    Because the Vice President of the Confederacy isn't the Confederacy.

    Just like Joe Biden isn't America.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Because the Vice President of the Confederacy isn't the Confederacy.

    Just like Joe Biden isn't America.
    its very simple: suggesting that secession was not about slavery or racism, is historical revisionism, not unlike Holocaust-denial.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i guess i'm not familiar with southern blacks embracing the confederate flag.
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    Im sure you've also been told and taught to believe that blacks weren't soldiers in the confederate army.

    That they weren't respected by the south.

    You've been taught to believe all of the vile and hateful forms of Slavery, yet never being taught any of the more predominant forms of slavery where they were considered as a part of the family. (Yes, I am acknowledging that they were still slaves... however I can actually look at things in historical perspective... can you?)


    Fact is... people with only a general education on the matter don't have a clue what was really going on in the south unless you bother to take a better look into it all.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its very simple: suggesting that secession was not about slavery or racism, is historical revisionism, not unlike Holocaust-denial.
    Not about Racism.

    You aren't looking at things in a historical perspective.

    Nobody was fighting against racism... as all were racists..
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Nobody was fighting against racism... as all were racists..
    Right, even the abolitionist movement. Huh?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Right, even the abolitionist movement. Huh?
    Yes.

    There is a difference between being a racist, and not agreeing that we should have slaves.

    The issues aren't mutually exclusive.....

    Such simplistic views of the Civil War are so pathetic.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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