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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    There are several threads on the Confederate flag that dance around this question.

    Many people, usually, if not always, conservatives, argue in favor of the Confederate flag and the desire to fly it or place it within the public domain. Oftentimes, they refer to it as if it is merely an innocent symbol of United States history, a symbol of state's rights, a symbol of fighting against far reaching federal government and sometimes even a symbol of patriotism.

    However, these arguments, to me, seem like revisionist nonsense. The Confederate flag represents treason. It was the flag of people whose actions were not based in love of their country, but in a decision to give up on their country and abandon it in order to form a new one. It was a flag flown by those who decided that they no longer wished to be a part of the United States and that they no longer wished to solve their problems while remaining Americans.

    Consequently, it seems obvious to me that the Confederate flag is not one that would be flown proudly by Americans, but one that would be flown proudly by those who no longer wish to be Americans. For this reason, it seems ridiculous to allow such a flag to be present on anything belonging to or issued by the state as it represents those who want to disassociate themselves from the state. It also seems ridiculous for anyone who considers themselves a patriot to fly the flag of people who abandoned their patriotism. Am I right about all of this? If not, why not?
    I fly my Confederate flag for many reasons, but the main reason I fly the Confederate flag is out of respect and in remembrances of the southern Americans that died for their believes. Now maybe if the Confederates had won I may not have the freedom to do this, but I guess we will never know that for sure. The way I see what you are saying is that anyone who fights against the American government is a traitor, so you think MLK was a traitor, the Black Panthers are traitors? In my opinion I think you donít like the Confederate flag and you see what you want to see and the hell with everybody else.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by dumbasdirt View Post
    I fly my Confederate flag for many reasons, but the main reason I fly the Confederate flag is out of respect and in remembrances of the southern Americans that died for their believes. Now maybe if the Confederates had won I may not have the freedom to do this, but I guess we will never know that for sure. The way I see what you are saying is that anyone who fights against the American government is a traitor, so you think MLK was a traitor, the Black Panthers are traitors? In my opinion I think you don’t like the Confederate flag and you see what you want to see and the hell with everybody else.
    LOL. You are comparing mlk to proslavery rebels. What's wrong with you?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by dumbasdirt View Post
    I fly my Confederate flag for many reasons, but the main reason I fly the Confederate flag is out of respect and in remembrances of the southern Americans that died for their believes. Now maybe if the Confederates had won I may not have the freedom to do this, but I guess we will never know that for sure. The way I see what you are saying is that anyone who fights against the American government is a traitor, so you think MLK was a traitor, the Black Panthers are traitors? In my opinion I think you don’t like the Confederate flag and you see what you want to see and the hell with everybody else.
    I brought one just because it pissed people off.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    LOL. You are comparing mlk to proslavery rebels. What's wrong with you?
    I saw his point right away, you didn't. Let me redirect the question "what is wrong with you?".
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    I brought one just because it pissed people off.
    Nah, I believe in the Dixie flag and U.S. flags original ideals. I flip people off to piss them off.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by dumbasdirt View Post
    The way I see what you are saying is that anyone who fights against the American government is a traitor, so you think MLK was a traitor, the Black Panthers are traitors?
    Um, no that's not what I'm saying. Let me re-post one of my earlier comments in order to respond to this faulty logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's different because OWS and the Tea Party (who used the DTOM flag) [and MLK and the Black Panthers] want to improve the United States, not abandon it.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    I see the Rebel flag as being no different than the Nazi flag.

    They all are wrapped up in bigotry and hatred.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I saw his point right away, you didn't. Let me redirect the question "what is wrong with you?".
    So fighting for civil rights is the same thing as treason? OKay.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    So fighting for civil rights is the same thing as treason? OKay.
    I KNOW you are not suggesting the Confederates were fighting for civil rights.

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