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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Secession is explicitly prohibited by the constitution. Therefore secession is illegal and the CSA never existed. The attack on fort sumter was an act of treason by pro-slavery rebels.
    Could you please point out the specific language that prohibits secession?

    EDIT - Oh wait. I see you've already done so. Our old friend the commerce clauses, eh?

    So congress can regulate commerce among the several states (the states in the federation) and with foreign states (the rest of the states in the world).

    And how exactly does this prohibit one of the member states from leaving the federation?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    ...No Confederate EVER stood trial for treason. Why not?
    a desire to put the past behind us and reunify the nation.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    a desire to put the past behind us and reunify the nation.
    Well, let me expand upon my question. Why were no Confederates EVER put on trial for treason, EVEN after President Lincoln, President Johnson, the majority of Congress, and the Chief Justice himself (contrary to his legal interpretation) all openly stated that they WANTED Confederate leaders to stand trial?
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Well, let me expand upon my question. Why were no Confederates EVER put on trial for treason, EVEN after President Lincoln, President Johnson, the majority of Congress, and the Chief Justice himself (contrary to his legal interpretation) all openly stated that they WANTED Confederate leaders to stand trial?
    Why do you think they weren't tried for treason? And why does it matter that they weren't?

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    ...Why were no Confederates EVER put on trial for treason, EVEN after President Lincoln, President Johnson, the majority of Congress, and the Chief Justice himself (contrary to his legal interpretation) all openly stated that they WANTED Confederate leaders to stand trial?
    why don't you just tell us.

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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Well, let me expand upon my question. Why were no Confederates EVER put on trial for treason, EVEN after President Lincoln, President Johnson, the majority of Congress, and the Chief Justice himself (contrary to his legal interpretation) all openly stated that they WANTED Confederate leaders to stand trial?
    The north was actually very compassionate to the south. Lincoln wanted to readmit the south quickly and painlessly.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    The north was actually very compassionate to the south. Lincoln wanted to readmit the south quickly and painlessly.
    History, the Reconstruction period, the burning of Atlanta, and the rape of southern women by union soldiers kind of disagree with you.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    History, the Reconstruction period, the burning of Atlanta, and the rape of southern women by union soldiers kind of disagree with you.
    Southern women are easy. They probably consented.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    I am sure someone has said this already, but what flag are we talking about? The classic flag is a battle flag. Most people never take the time to figure that one out.

    Also I would like to say that if the CSA flag is treason, then so is the United States flag. We rebelled. I think it would be far better, or more accurate, to call it a flag of rebellion. I know this is semantics, but one could make the case that there is a legitmate cause behind seccession. Economic repression, political differences that cannot be compromised on. The roots to the Civil War had been sown at the end of the Revolutionary war. An Agragarian South pitted against an Industrial Power house in the North. So the Civil War was almost a neccessary evil. At that time people still viewed their home towns and states as more important than the Federal government.

    Anyway. Like I said. Rebellion. The cause was far to large to be considered treason. Maybe individuals could be considered treasonous? Not the movement. Of course what the flag represents depends on the person.
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    Re: Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    I am sure someone has said this already, but what flag are we talking about? The classic flag is a battle flag. Most people never take the time to figure that one out.

    Also I would like to say that if the CSA flag is treason, then so is the United States flag. We rebelled. I think it would be far better, or more accurate, to call it a flag of rebellion. I know this is semantics, but one could make the case that there is a legitmate cause behind seccession. Economic repression, political differences that cannot be compromised on. The roots to the Civil War had been sown at the end of the Revolutionary war. An Agragarian South pitted against an Industrial Power house in the North. So the Civil War was almost a neccessary evil. At that time people still viewed their home towns and states as more important than the Federal government.

    Anyway. Like I said. Rebellion. The cause was far to large to be considered treason. Maybe individuals could be considered treasonous? Not the movement. Of course what the flag represents depends on the person.
    The debate isn't about the flag anymore. It is about whether secession is legal. I personally think its not because it is prohibited by our constitution. The opposition thinks that obedience to the constitution is optional.
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